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Who's the final villain?


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I genuinely think Luffy might be fucked at Egghead now.
• Four Seraphim ready to kick his ass due to being ordered to by York
• Two of Blackbeard's commanders, one with a Mythical Zoan and another who's extremely ambiguous but seemingly one of Blackbeard's top brass
• A naval fleet with an Admiral and one of the Gorosei (who are confirmed fighters now) on board
At the very least you can hope that Smoker snuck in to secretly help Luffy out or something.
-Seraphim who he could embarass if he tried with Advanced Haki and/or G5.
BB's Commanders who got roflstomped by Kuzan and Hancock.
Borsalino and Saturn are valid, but Luffy, Zoro, his crew, and maybe the Grand Fleet can handle em.
 

Seth

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I genuinely think Luffy might be fucked at Egghead now.
• Four Seraphim ready to kick his ass due to being ordered to by York
• Two of Blackbeard's commanders, one with a Mythical Zoan and another who's extremely ambiguous but seemingly one of Blackbeard's top brass
• A naval fleet with an Admiral and one of the Gorosei (who are confirmed fighters now) on board
At the very least you can hope that Smoker snuck in to secretly help Luffy out or something.
No retarded bs and fake storytelling.

Luffy and Zoro clap Seraphims.

Only challenge is Saturn and Kizaru. If Oda would be realistic, Straw Hats will experience another Sabaody but not as bad and overwhelming like the last time so they probably manage to escape on their own.

In reality:

Luffy and Zoro forget they have strong Haki forms.

Running around. Fake tension and most likely Saturn and Kizaru are a typical time ticking bomb plot.

I doubt even stronger crews would handle 100 Ships fleet with 2 top tiers. One in his Prime and one with knowledge going of for centuries.
 
No retarded bs and fake storytelling.

Luffy and Zoro clap Seraphims.

Only challenge is Saturn and Kizaru. If Oda would be realistic, Straw Hats will experience another Sabaody but not as bad and overwhelming like the last time so they probably manage to escape on their own.

In reality:

Luffy and Zoro forget they have strong Haki forms.

Running around. Fake tension and most likely Saturn and Kizaru are a typical time ticking bomb plot.

I doubt even stronger crews would handle 100 Ships fleet with 2 top tiers. One in his Prime and one with knowledge going of for centuries.
If they experience Sabaody 2 I'm just dropping the fucking manga.
If they haven't gotten strong enough to at least clash with Kizaru and make him leave/retreat, there's no point in reading any further, because it means Oda wasted years of our time for what is ultimately the exact same shit.
 
I genuinely think Luffy might be fucked at Egghead now.
• Four Seraphim ready to kick his ass due to being ordered to by York
• Two of Blackbeard's commanders, one with a Mythical Zoan and another who's extremely ambiguous but seemingly one of Blackbeard's top brass
• A naval fleet with an Admiral and one of the Gorosei (who are confirmed fighters now) on board
At the very least you can hope that Smoker snuck in to secretly help Luffy out or something.
Dude the BBP heading to Egghead are two bozos.

Seraphim could somehow be stopped from VP's order or some plotshit like this.

Lmao at Smoker, he couldnt even beat Vergo a few arcs ago, best case scenario he is YC2/3 at this point which means nothing against Seraphims or Kizaru.
Unless Saturn is a demigod the Navy are fucked
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
If they experience Sabaody 2 I'm just dropping the fucking manga.
If they haven't gotten strong enough to at least clash with Kizaru and make him leave/retreat, there's no point in reading any further, because it means Oda wasted years of our time for what is ultimately the exact same shit.
I said that they wouldn't end up as they did last time.

But realistically. Luffy didn't defeat Kaido in pure 1 vs 1 from start to finish. It was loaded with bullshit, plot armor and fake outs.

Zoro is approaching Top Tier level but is no fully there. Rest of the SHs are fodders for Kizaru.

Realistically Kizaru and Saturn should clap SHs.
 
No retarded bs and fake storytelling.

Luffy and Zoro clap Seraphims.

Only challenge is Saturn and Kizaru. If Oda would be realistic, Straw Hats will experience another Sabaody but not as bad and overwhelming like the last time so they probably manage to escape on their own.

In reality:

Luffy and Zoro forget they have strong Haki forms.

Running around. Fake tension and most likely Saturn and Kizaru are a typical time ticking bomb plot.

I doubt even stronger crews would handle 100 Ships fleet with 2 top tiers. One in his Prime and one with knowledge going of for centuries.
Yeah true.
I definitely think Luffy's probably gonna suffer some slight form of defeat akin to Sabaody, but not on the same level as Sabaody itself. Like being forced to flee rather than having his entire crew pushed across the world.
 
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