Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

Who's the final villain?


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Peroroncino

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Yes. Use tech to camouflage. Sanji moves too fast to be noticed.
The argumento @Peroroncino is making is that king moving fast is the same. Which is false since he was noticed in the panel posted by Zoro that suck at spotting things.
Zoro's coo is just that good, unless you can explain how king disappearing by moving fast and sanji disappearing by moving fast is different you have no argument
 
Gorosei aren't Luffy's next main fights as main villains.
They're not above KAIDO and BM

This is like thinking Calamities or whatever are above katakuri
Or that everyone that came after Doffy is above him

You need to be Luffy's opponent to actually be in the talk as Luffy's past opponent
Or have the portrayal like Yonko are on the same level
The fact there are 5 of them should kill any discussion, Luffy wonโ€™t have 4 allies stronger than Kaido lol.
 
just realised, the spoilers dont imply the flashback is finished or that sabo tried to escape lol, it only says wapol ran, the fight is still happening

next chapter we gonna continue sabo 1v6 gorosei and imu and see why hes called the flame emperor, get ready gorosei tards :milaugh:
What is Fuji and GB doing ?
They can't handle Karasu and Morley

Shitting on Gorosei to hype Admirals is dumb
Cause at the end of the day, Gorosei have high chances of being Wings final enemies, which means they will be > or ~ Admirals
 

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"Zoro got clowned by a commander, therefore Sanji and Queen are shit"

What kind of retarded shit is this?:milaugh:

Whose fault is that base Sanji can fight King & Queen 1v2, while Zolo is a fucking loser who needs every haki powerup imaginable to just reach commander level?

Is it Sanji's fault that his ceiling is much higher than zolo's that he doesn't even need to start unlocking adv haki to beat a commander?

King was dumbed down? The bozo turned into a complete retard, he turned off his flames AND devil fruit durability.
So essentially Zoro needed his strongest AP to beat a normal person who was just standing around with his mouth open:suresure:
Oda wrote King and Queen to fight seriously when he decided it was finally the moment to split them and make Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen.

Prior to that, you had that irrelevant moment of Marco kicking both of them into the buildings and everyone thought Marco is a playa.

He did nothing to either King or Queen. Flashiness =/= actually achieving something.


The only relevant fighters after the Yonko are YC1s. People like Queen are goofballs who can get handled easily and that's why Sanji won.

If you swap Zoro and Sanji, Sanji would get buttfucked and Zoro would defeat Queen easily.

Zoro's base ap is above Sanji's by a lot. It wasn't enough for him to use AdvCoA, he had to understand and learn the use of AdvCoC to finally put King on the defense and eventually win. King disabling his fire or not is just Oda's stupidity. Zoro couldn't harm him in any relevant way prior to AdvCoC even when King turned of his flames.

Sanji's base AP is shit and he doesn't have any Advanced form of Haki to possibly pose a challenge to Flame off King, let alone Flame on.


Sanji's ceiling is much higher than Zoro's? LMFAO you so fucking dumb:milaugh:
 
The fact there are 5 of them should kill any discussion, Luffy wonโ€™t have 4 allies stronger than Kaido lol.
Luffy isn't even having anyone strong or stronger than Kaido at EoS
The strongest allies will he at best ~ Shanks (weaker than Kaido)
The strongest underling (zoro) will be at best >= Admirals

People just be talking crap
Luffy isn't having guys on WSP level under him
Imu doesn't have 5 yonko level guys or PK level guys under him, on top of Admirals

4 Emperors >~ 4 Admirals >= 5 Gorosei
 
Zoro's coo is just that good, unless you can explain how king disappearing by moving fast and sanji disappearing by moving fast is different you have no argument
One is invisible and got unnoticed until he decided to appear. It was stated in panel that it was the same as Queen invisibility.
The other was saw by the enemy and show on panel.
 
The fact there are 5 of them should kill any discussion, Luffy wonโ€™t have 4 allies stronger than Kaido lol.
Luff crew will not only be as strong, but undoubtedly and unquestionably surpass every crew ever existed without place for the reader to question, its setup since chapter 1, which includes ROCKS, which had 3 of the 4 yonkos and a lot of other top tier regarded guys
Nothing to do with the gorosei just that people are not ready for the endgame power levels

People are coping hard because of their favs, oda mainly cares about luffy and allies, he doesn't give a fuck about any other faction or them getting clowned on
 
You failed to read the story yet you tell me to read??
1.Queen in udon no sold an attack from luffy and asked him who the hell do you think I am .
2 Was not scared to tango with bm even knowing she was a yonko, something kata bum can never do since he is a bitchass boy too scared of his mom .
3.Put bm to sleep .
4.Casually watched luffy use coc and train in acoa and was just laughing at it.
5. Took shock wave attacks from Marco and no sold it. Tanked all of perosperos arrows which would have wiped out Marco and no sold it.
6. Tanked attacks from king, attacks which sent zoro flying .
7. Casually Tanked all of sanjis attack without dodging
1.) Never happened.
2.) Brachio Bomber is a sneak attack and even when it dealt no damage, Queen shit his pants in front of Big Mom who regained her memories back.
3.) The memories regaining back put her to sleep. Queen factually dealt no damage.
4.) Now that's supposed to mean something again???
5.) It simply means that Marco doesn't hit as hard as you think he does. Sorry?
6.) Took one slash on his butt meanwhile Katakuri fought with an open torso.
7.) Prior to his exoskeleton, Sanji's AP was also pisspoor. The fact that his strongest attacks were comparable to weaker G2 hits is embarrassing bro. You forgot why Sanji was shit on throughout the timeskip by the fandom?
 

Peroroncino

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One is invisible and got unnoticed until he decided to appear. It was stated in panel that it was the same as Queen invisibility.
The other was saw by the enemy and show on panel.
sanji went invisible and appeared when he attacked king went invisible and appeared when he attacked, you have nothing and oda already said sanji's invisibility is based on speed so there's no difference from what king did so cope seethe and mald more
 
What is Fuji and GB doing ?
They can't handle Karasu and Morley

Shitting on Gorosei to hype Admirals is dumb
Cause at the end of the day, Gorosei have high chances of being Wings final enemies, which means they will be > or ~ Admirals
difference is that people claim Gorosei are literally god tier that can each low diff 10 Akainu for breakfeast. So if their first showing is not that good thereโ€™s going to be a backlash
 
Gorosei are either below or above Admirals
Which means they're at best equal to Yonko or inferior.

Oda isn't having 5-10 dudes over Kaido
When there's only 2 pirates above Kaido : Roger and WB

Let them be equal or above Akainu first
Them above admiral level is almost a given at this point. It seems that more than the acting heads of the WG they are the guard dogs of Im and they have probably also lived for centuries and centuries so the real ultimate (secret) power of the WG to protect the king while the admirals just protect the useless weight called celestial dragons. But this could also crash the so called balance of yonko-admirals-shikis suggested in Marineford. Maybe they were all just keeping that balance without actually infringing it even if they had the power to, but I am speculating too much, let's at least see the chapter first. But this hypes them a lot (even if the whole stuff with Wapol and Sabo escaping in their den dehypes a bit the whole thing lol).
 
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