Character Discussion Buggy and Miharwk Who has more important role in the storyline ?
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Vista would be better. It actually is a competent swordsman and could train someone to be a YC level.
Croc and Buggy acted together in Marineford. If Mihawk didn't exist and Oda wanted the cross guild to happen it would be even more plausible than what we got. Croc actually seems to be very reasonable besides the threats.
Croc and Buggy acted together in Marineford. If Mihawk didn't exist and Oda wanted the cross guild to happen it would be even more plausible than what we got. Croc actually seems to be very reasonable besides the threats.
Lanjitards sure know alot about fraud. From fake feats to crying and begging for conqueror's haki every single day since Zoro was confirmed to have it, to powerscale based on emotions. The full bag. 
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Agree, zorotards hate vista than any other characters
Lanjitards sure know alot about fraud. From fake feats to crying and begging for conqueror's haki every single day since Zoro was confirmed to have it, to powerscale based on emotions. The full bag.
You are probably a kid so its time to learn how the world works.
One Piece is a manga but in the end of the day its a business and its all about money.
The 2nd MC is the most popular worldwide after the MC.
With simple words it doesnt matter who is more important than the other but either if you like it or not the 2nd MC's main opponent for more than 2 decades would be more significant overall than Buggy.
One Piece is a manga but in the end of the day its a business and its all about money.
The 2nd MC is the most popular worldwide after the MC.
With simple words it doesnt matter who is more important than the other but either if you like it or not the 2nd MC's main opponent for more than 2 decades would be more significant overall than Buggy.
Man, try to think in terms of the story. In the actual manga Vista was enough to hold Mihawk. Even if not the best it would be enough to train him for the timeskip. Him getting his growth on his own would actually be cool.
About Croc, again, try to read what I actually wrote. I will try to repeat in a different way: in a hypothetical scenario where Mihawk doesn't exist, if Oda wanted to make Buggy and Croc join together it could happen based on the fact that they had already be partners before and Croc was show to be able to be amicable with subordinates. This is a possibility if, again, the Cross Guild was something so important for the manga.
Got it? You may disagree but, if you are talking about hypothetical scenarios, try to answer based on the premisses of the scenario at least.
About Croc, again, try to read what I actually wrote. I will try to repeat in a different way: in a hypothetical scenario where Mihawk doesn't exist, if Oda wanted to make Buggy and Croc join together it could happen based on the fact that they had already be partners before and Croc was show to be able to be amicable with subordinates. This is a possibility if, again, the Cross Guild was something so important for the manga.
Got it? You may disagree but, if you are talking about hypothetical scenarios, try to answer based on the premisses of the scenario at least.
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LOL, this is the perfect description of mihawk character.
Also, like it or not, zoro is the most liked character worldwide after the MC so it´s only right that his plot points gonna have more attention than other crew members.
Personally, i´m starting to believe on a vengeance cliche route for zoro after mihawk dies to gorosei, especially after mihawk gave so much support to strawhats during Post timeskip.
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Also, like it or not, zoro is the most liked character worldwide after the MC so it´s only right that his plot points gonna have more attention than other crew members.
Personally, i´m starting to believe on a vengeance cliche route for zoro after mihawk dies to gorosei, especially after mihawk gave so much support to strawhats during Post timeskip.
You may think this. The manga shows another thing however. In the manga proper, after Mihawk failed to test his strength against WB, Vista was deemed strong enough to hold him up. In the manga when Mihawk decided to end the fight instead of finishing the opponent (as he should do since according to you Vista was nothing), Mihawk asked Vista for a time out. Notice that is always Mihawk the one that gives a excuse to not fight.
Not only that but we don't actually know how strong or weak Vista is. What we know is that he could and did hold mihawk back in Marineford. In the event that Mihawk didn't exist this fight would never happened and Oda could make him as strong as the story demands since he would not be limited by frauds. Remember the scenario?
Let me guess: you say this based on the imaginary fights you ran in your head? What evidence (besides the fact that the manga spelled out that Vista was enough to hold Mihawk) do you have about Vista limit power?
Again, In the event that Mihawk didn't exist Oda could make him as strong as the story demands. You are arguing about minutiae instead of addressing the premise.
Just a small thing: you are ignoring arguments about the scenarios and focusing on things that have no merit on it. The point about Vista was only to show that there are swordsman that could have trained Zoro if Mihawk didn't exist. It's not like Zoro learned Mihawk attacks or things like that. The reason for stating this is to show that Buggy had more impact in the story until now than Mihawk.
Not only that but we don't actually know how strong or weak Vista is. What we know is that he could and did hold mihawk back in Marineford. In the event that Mihawk didn't exist this fight would never happened and Oda could make him as strong as the story demands since he would not be limited by frauds. Remember the scenario?
Let me guess: you say this based on the imaginary fights you ran in your head? What evidence (besides the fact that the manga spelled out that Vista was enough to hold Mihawk) do you have about Vista limit power?
Again, In the event that Mihawk didn't exist Oda could make him as strong as the story demands. You are arguing about minutiae instead of addressing the premise.
Just a small thing: you are ignoring arguments about the scenarios and focusing on things that have no merit on it. The point about Vista was only to show that there are swordsman that could have trained Zoro if Mihawk didn't exist. It's not like Zoro learned Mihawk attacks or things like that. The reason for stating this is to show that Buggy had more impact in the story until now than Mihawk.