And this has always been the case with me with regards to me opposing democracy
it's nothing new
Granted


it aint the same case as man we agree on this topic but not another, it's generally the same beliefs that you share even excluding femminism like the views on gun rights or lgbt or abortion
And still, there is a major thing we don't agree with being liberalism. This is everything.


agreeing on common sense stuff
Yup, LGBTQ+ right and feminism are common sence stuff. So its logic that I agree with a democrate with that. What is not is , again, liberalism.


Why would you have the right wing
be blue

when voting red typically means voting republican ie right eing
Hm.. Well.. Communism is usually being associated with red and conservative in blue. USA are strange on that subject.


Also think a model like this could work too
The problem is that this model is a one scale only. It doesn't take all the variables into account being that you can agree with leftists on one thing while agreeing with the right wing on another.

like adding the normal right wing and normal left wing closer to the center not far left
I agree with that. Normal left/right are closer to the center than the extremities.



hence the mems of the enlightened centrist, it's just making fun of the fact that we are generally seen as thinking were smarter
but yea the lack of belief kinda allows us ie centrists to look at things at a issue to issue basis rather then the beliefs/culture mentality that your going to have ether as a left or right winger
Problem here is that you don't have a lack of belief. On the contrary. You lean toward the right side.

But its logical, centrists tend to lean automatically toward the right.


it's fine when my team does it but not my opposing team
my opposition = wrong when doing the same exact as me
Sometimes, holding up information to avoid a crisis is the right thing to do. The best example of that is in a hostage situation.



both are biased as hell sources
That's the thing, one side is more biased than the other. The right side.

I wouldt find that news on a right wing channel only a left wing one or vice versa if a leftist is exposed
Maybe you don't follow the right sources

I dont really know any neutral commentators
That's why I follow only the afp as a news outlet. Its fairly neutral

vaush,destiny and nederthal
Not sure Vaush is a leftist, I don't know the others.

Wtf does crypto fascist even mean
A crypto fascist is someone with fascist ideas without being a total fascist yet. Its between the alt-right and fascists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt...is the secret,closely related to the ideology.



why do you say these weird terms that pretty only you know and then expect me to understand like it's commonly used phrase or something
jesus and some of the things, it's things you cant even find results for on google like confuionist
You can ask me questions mate, I won't bite. And its confusionnism (in french its "un confusionniste" or "un confus")

I think if we got to explaining what the values of what facist would be
you would see that most of these people you dislike arent facists
Usually, fascist are white supremacists, they don't interact here. That's why I use the term "crypto-fascist"

hitler was a very top down goverment
Yup, Hitler was a fascist.

since when would me of all people
be a populist?
Because the trend is actually not to defend LGBTQ+ or feminism but to spit on it.

I mean that's what you do
No bro. That's not. I disagree with a lot of people here, I don't call everyone Xphobe. You just feel targeted.

people im to hate = nazi or far right
people im to like = leftist
Still no.


i cant find nothing in google on this confusionist stuff
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusionnisme
Took me 2 second. But like I told you, its a french concept so I don't think its was internationnaly exported.

nothing said there was sexist
Not talking about what you said here, but on others threads

nothing said there was sexist
there is no situation where you even explain how women having it rougher then men can even make sense
as a woman, you can have a man pay for what goods and desires you want
THis, is a sexist bias. Sorry not sorry.


it's women that wont date weak guys
who cry or are not secure


So guys hold back their feelings as were burned when we open up to anyone
No. You see the end result but you fail to understand the problem. That's not how it works.


you cant quantify that
Yes we can, that's a field of study mate.

your belief is nonsense if you think me who struggles at getting by living check to check really has any power in opressing anyone then your just delusional
You fail to understand the words "systemic problems"
Again, read sociology or at least watch some video about it.

Dudes cant get laid or find any female affection yet somehow are the bosses of society
This is a direct consequence of patriarchy yes. But you would understand that if you tried to understand it.


what a ruling class of people, they control everything yet live and act as if that's not the case almost like your wrong or something
You must understand the concept around power and oppression in the society.

Yea but that's because you are on the left
No, that's because I perfectly understand the right. And the right wing mindset is based only on myths storytelling, individualism and biases.

you emotionally couldt accept it as true even it was so this kinda point means nothing

in the same case, the right winger would say we arent equal value
im better
That's the thing,I was a right winger once. So I perfectly understand it.

there's no way someone like you could adress this claim honestly
Just did.


you already invested so much in this belief of yours that even if it was wrong, you couldt bring yourself to accept it
You really don't understand how I'm functionning.

I strive to be proven wrong in life.


I love that. Go check the nakama thread if you have doubts.

Random women are a scientific source
You have this backward. Search first for scientific source THEN make sure you have women in there.

The principle of having women is to make you you are properly in contact with how they live. Its a matter of representation and to be sure you don't create sexist bias.

You need to understand that having a large number of women around you is important to be sure to understand their life.

If you think theexperiences of women and man in a patriarcal society are equal, you didn't understand anything.

and news outlets tend to have alot of biases eg fox news for the right and cnn for the left
they arent really a scientific source
Don't use Cnn or fox news. Use a neutral source of information like afp in France.

And Cnn and Fox News are not scientific source so you might wanna search somewhere else.

or you going to say cnn is scientific source? Cause they agreee with you?
WTF are you unable to understand what I write ? I told you follow ONE and NEUTRAL news outlet and find MULTIPLE scientific sources. I never told you to watch Fox NEws or CNN as a scientific sources !

THere are plenty of good scientist in the world, go follow THEM.

your saying gays are opressed so if im to like femboys
does that make me opressed even if it's entirely closeted and nobody knows

yes or no
Well, if you are a man liking other man then yeah, you are systematically oppressed.


if every right wing is far right
then that just means far right is term used for all the right

Aint that kinda proving my it's a shaming tactic thing right
I'm only speaking about the USA here. In the USA there is no more soft conservatist, they are all going to the far right.

they banned me for getting in a heated debate with a femminist women
Why am I not surprised...

there arent even many women in the fields
I managed to find them, so should you.

Ah... telling people to essentially create a new Twitter full of leftists... and then subject yourself to it on a daily basis for #reasons. Man, @CarrotForNakama are you sure you want to advocate for conversion therapy?
Can you tell me how following 5 or 10 leftist militant out of 100 person make your feed full of leftist ?
 
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