Define nature in terms of male female desires, attraction, why are they attracted to each other?
Natural process... for what?
What is natural when it comes to human sexual reproduction.
Or lets say, what's the natural purpose of sex organs.
Most of this is irrelevant for the animals that have homosexual behavior.

Sure, it doesnt serve reproduction, that doesnt mean its unnatural though
 
Most of this is irrelevant for the animals that have homosexual behavior.

Sure, it doesnt serve reproduction, that doesnt mean its unnatural though
Nah, you said it is natural.
Now you say it is irrelevant.

Stick to one point so that we can have a discussion.

What's is the natural purpose of sex organs?
 
Depends on the purpose. You could say having kids but if you don't wanna have kids then it aint the nature of your sex organs to do so
"if you dont want" is irrelevant bro,

The natural purpose, for what they exist, stays the same regardless.

There are asexual creatures like flatworms.

But they have other means of reproduction;

Binary fission, budding, vegetative propagation, spore formation (sporogenesis), fragmentation, parthenogenesis, and apomixis.
 
Ok tell me the definition based on gender thats not circular and therefore massively useless
I don't really understand your sentence but here is a good definition:

Sex refers to “the different biological and physiological characteristics of males and females, such as reproductive organs, chromosomes, hormones, etc.” Gender refers to "the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men.

The distinction is very important in sociology.

Define nature in terms of male female desires, attraction, why are they attracted to each other?
Natural process... for what?
What is natural when it comes to human sexual reproduction.
Or lets say, what's the natural purpose of sex organs.
Oula.. there is a lot of "strange" things here.

First, I think you have the understanding of Evolution all backward. Evolution is not about "purpose", its natural selection. Sometimes, there is no "purpose".
Secondly, everything is natural as long at it happens naturally. (I don't really know how to rephrase that more clearly)
I don't think that there is rationnal reason why homosexuality hasn't dissapeared yet in every species on earth but the fact is: it's here.

So homosexuality is as natural as people being trans or people being asexuals or people being non binary etc..

Its just something that happens naturally.
 
"if you dont want" is irrelevant bro,

The natural purpose, for what they exist, stays the same regardless.

There are asexual creatures like flatworms.

But they have other means of reproduction;

Binary fission, budding, vegetative propagation, spore formation (sporogenesis), fragmentation, parthenogenesis, and apomixis.
It is quite relevant. If i take a sword and stab someone then I used the sword as a weapon and gave it the nature and purpose of that

But if i take that same sword to cut my bread then i changed its purpose and nature

Sex organs are same, if you use them for birth then that is their purpose and nature, if you use it for sex/pleasure then that is their purpose
 
It is quite relevant. If i take a sword and stab someone then I used the sword as a weapon and gave it the nature and purpose of that

But if i take that same sword to cut my bread then i changed its purpose and nature

Sex organs are same, if you use them for birth then that is their purpose and nature, if you use it for sex/pleasure then that is their purpose
True,
But there is human "will" involved right?

Maybe the answer is "will", or how you want to use certain things.
 

AL sama

The Wise Wolf
Plastic is made from natural materials, but the secondary product is not considered natural at all. And it is harmful for the environment.

How is it not man made when we ignore the true purpose of sex organs; reproduction.
huh?? people need to make plastic

homosexuality is a natural instinct

certainly you can see that much
 
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