Spoiler One Piece Chapter 982 Spoilers Discussion

[Porter Peak II 👑]

Sure I can, all you have do is look at what is given to you in the manga that presents a clear dynamic of where Luffy is separating himself from the rest of his crew and the supernova, Zoro and Sanji are closer than what Luffy and Zoro are. Until we get more feats or portrayal (not just running in a group) to back up Zoro’s strength, not one based off of speculation, he’s not moving up in the ladder. This can be discussed in the Zoro vs Sanji thread though.

Nah Sanji's strongest DJ can't even knocked out unarmed Luffy for good. Imagine if it was Zoro?? "Unwilling to fight" Luffy will be dead.

 

[kom5]

Did Zoro casually cross swords with him?? Yes with lot of bleeding from his mouth. In fact it is Fujitora who was casual

Akainu is not merciful like Fujitora. Put Akainu in Dressrosa, whole Dressrosa would have been magmafisted and Zoro would have been first one to kick the bucket.

Jinbe feats, hype, portrayal dwarfs both Sanji and Zoro for the time being. Only Zoro fans put Zoro above Jinbe based on nothing. When Zoro goes against Kaido or King or any other commanders, then one can truly accept Jinbe > Zoro.

Yes he did in there second clash
it wasnt a lot of bleeding
he didnt use haki nor ashura with haki so he did use his gravity so Zoro was fine second time Zoro casually crossed swords with him

Yeah yeah we dont know that Doffy wasnt really afraid of Fuji and thought of vanish him

Jinbe blocked a magma fist and was greatly burn and Big Mom in her big form could easily endure a gigantic thunderbolt while in slim form she was easily hurt by an lil lighting bolt
dont hype Jinbe more than Zoro because of this if you cant gouge BM strength

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Weakened to what extent? She was still stronger than everyone there and on her crew, she still pushed Jinbe back and survived multiple attacks, even from Zeus who has high levels of damage output. Even if you want to ignore that, Jinbe still held off Akainu with his bare hands, and he had no reason to hold back either because he was bloodlusted.

She took Zeus' attack 8 hours before she landed on the ship

Remember that she got skinnier as the day went along

Big mom was so weak that she herself says she feels like she's dying. Get it? In her body she felt like she was going to die just by herself without any outside influence of getting attacked or anything

She was stronger than Jinbei but that's why the only thing Jinbei did was push her and not actually damage her. But as it stands BIG MOM WAS DYING according to herself.

So don't go saying this is some monumental feat. Boh Jinbei pushing her and Jinbei blocking her attack are on the contigency that SHE'S DYING as STATED BY HERSELF.

Hell fuckin Chopper even managed to guard against her in this fuckin state

 

[Givien]

Yes he is, Zoro doesn't have any feat that comes close to Jinbe's until now however Zoro and Sanji are probably surpassing Jinbe by the end of Wano Arc.

Stop including zoro with Sanji as if they are comparable in any way . Oda depicts them completely different . Compare Sanji treatment since new word to zoro the worst generation member with a worlds strongest title pending

 

[Ravagerblade]

Pica's Torso is not even comparable to an actual Mountain... try harder try hards.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It is that Zoro is weaker than Jinbe until shown otherwise be it feats, portrayal or hype.

I'll wait for the chapter when Jinbei destroys a mountain too

 

[The Dark Flame]

How is they near equal???? Sanji can't even blacken his leg. No panel ever show he blacken his leg. His armament isn't Luffy n Zoro level.

Non of his attack even as destructive/strong as Zoro's attack

Let me ask you how you would show Sanji using black hardening on his black pants, I want you to answer that for me real quick

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[Givien]

Picard's Torso is not even comparable to an actual Mountain... try harder try hards.

Don’t worry about the worst generation future Wss with coa greater then oden . Hating on him will not end in your favor . Relax and watch him and his worst generation buddies who have all already fought kaido (luffy,kid and killer) take kaido head off
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Let me ask you how you would show Sanji using black hardening on his black pants, I want you to answer that for me real quick

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Sai has used black hardening many times with his black shoes and black stripped pants with no issues .

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yes he is, Zoro doesn't have any feat that comes close to Jinbe's until now however Zoro and Sanji are probably surpassing Jinbe by the end of Wano Arc.

Jinbei hasn't destroyed a mountain has he? Point me to the chapter where Jinbei did that.

I can point you to the chapter where Zoro clashed with and pushed back an admiral so you compare to when Jimbei blocked a random magma fist but then got roasted

 

[Monster Luffy]

Yes he did in there second clash
it wasnt a lot of bleeding
he didnt use haki nor ashura with haki so he did use his gravity so Zoro was fine second time Zoro casually crossed swords with him

Yeah yeah we dont know that Doffy wasnt really afraid of Fuji and thought of vanish him

Jinbe blocked a magma fist and was greatly burn and Big Mom in her big form could easily endure a gigantic thunderbolt while in slim form she was easily hurt by an lil lighting bolt
dont hype Jinbe more than Zoro because of this if you cant gouge BM strength

Fujitora didn't use gravity nor haki nor meteor drop in their second clash. So both just crossed swords. So don't hype Zoro more than Jinbe because of this if you can't gauge Fujitora strength.

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

Let me ask you how you would show Sanji using black hardening on his black pants, I want you to answer that for me real quick

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At least he should say "buso" but he didn't even once??? Lol that say it all. He can't even blacken his leg. Never once he did. He onoy know low level armament. Invicible one. The one Luffy use against Pacifista at Sabody

 

[stairs-kun]

Pica's Torso is not even comparable to an actual Mountain... try harder try hards.

Zoro no haki'd pica vertically before he even haki'd up.

 

[The Dark Flame]

I'll wait for the chapter when Jinbei destroys a mountain too

Here we go again with whoever destroys the largest amount of area means they are the strongest. Destructive capacity does not equal attack potency. Jinbe has harmed opponents who have survived wide aoe attacks, he can obviously put out the same amount of damage Zoro can in a more contained way.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Don’t worry about the worst generation future Wss with coa greater then oden . Hating on him will not end in your favor . Relax and watch him and his worst generation buddies who have all already fought kaido (luffy,kid and killer) take kaido head off
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Sai has used black hardening many times with his black shoes and black stripped pants with no issues .

In your god damn dreams, quit that overblown nonsense.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The level people Jinbe fought doesn't even come close to the people zoro clashed during the entire series bar Fujitora but if your headcanon makes you sleep better keep believing it.

Jinbei has fought an admiral. Zoro has fought an admiral.

Jinbei has fought a DYING BIG MOM and Zoro has cut a mountain.

 

[Charlotte LinLin]

Black Maria has a stunning resemblance to young LinLin, thus Kaido looks overjoyed here because she reminds him on when Lin was actually hot and young but now since she is old and fat he had chosen Maria :cheers:

 

[OEKaneki]

Jinbei is weaker than Zoro until shown otherwise.

People for some reason think anything Jinbei has shown compares to Zoro.

This entire post is embarrassing.

Yes he is, Zoro doesn't have any feat that comes close to Jinbe's until now however Zoro and Sanji are probably surpassing Jinbe by the end of Wano Arc.

Maybe Zoro, but not Sanji. Wouldn’t make sense and there isn’t a real reason for it

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

Yes he is, Zoro doesn't have any feat that comes close to Jinbe's until now however Zoro and Sanji are probably surpassing Jinbe by the end of Wano Arc.

Zoro send an admiral flying with his weakest sword + no named attack. When did Jinbe send any top tier flying with no named attack??

Zoro > Jinbei >>>> Sanji

 

[Ravagerblade]

Zoro no haki'd pica vertically before he even haki'd up.

That dont mean shit, it's not the size and thickness of an actual Mountain.

 

[SinOfGreed]

Nah Sanji's strongest DJ can't even knocked out unarmed Luffy for good. Imagine if it was Zoro?? "Unwilling to fight" Luffy will be dead.

That is true. Luffy would be forced to dodge if it was Zoro. There is no way he would be able to take a Shishi Sonson, Rashomon or Sanzen Sekai if he didn't have the will to fight.