[FNZ] Role Madness Metal Gear Mafia - Game Over: Patriots Win [Michelle Only Player Alive]

Would you take part in part two using the same universe?


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Gotta say, I don't like you assuming such precise scum tactics with these scenarios in mind, but that's fair

Can you explain the PB thing, sorry, I'm stupid
Lol the best scum tactics are simpler ones, as there's less to screw up. I dont do Ekko level elaborate plans, I stay silent and just kill.
Polar Bear didnt scum read me too much more than other people, and was interacting enough with Pot Goblin and me. As a scum member, I dont tend to interact with people who I plan on killing, because town tends to notice who people interacted with when they die. Killing Polar Bear and shoving me into the spotlight would have had 1 of two effects this late in the game, and with being busy IRL:


I'm last scum left: I'd just forefit, as I made a massive screw up, it was my fault, and its last day anyways from my PoV, as I was already voted before I checked in today

I'm second to last scum left: I get really mad at my scum mate, for killing Polar Bear instead of Soild Snake, and probably end up subbing out or really bitching out the other person for doing that
 
Is this because it was after Reloaded offered himself to be the detonator to the bomb
From what I gather from that post is that Reloaded and Orca might be the path correct?

From those VCs you posted they voted first as well so they were safe from the bomb
ye, it's between them two

And that's exactly my point re: the bomb

He claimed honor, but his actions say otherwise imo.

To me it seems he backed off after Yoru suspected some of these sacrificial offerings were performative and avoided pushing himself as a sacrifice and allowed Indigo to go down that phase. This is just how I view it contextually with Yoru's engagement with Reloaded. He could've been incorrect, mind you. But the vibes I get is there's some type of agenda there.
 
Lol the best scum tactics are simpler ones, as there's less to screw up. I dont do Ekko level elaborate plans, I stay silent and just kill.
Polar Bear didnt scum read me too much more than other people, and was interacting enough with Pot Goblin and me. As a scum member, I dont tend to interact with people who I plan on killing, because town tends to notice who people interacted with when they die. Killing Polar Bear and shoving me into the spotlight would have had 1 of two effects this late in the game, and with being busy IRL:


I'm last scum left: I'd just forefit, as I made a massive screw up, it was my fault, and its last day anyways from my PoV, as I was already voted before I checked in today

I'm second to last scum left: I get really mad at my scum mate, for killing Polar Bear instead of Soild Snake, and probably end up subbing out or really bitching out the other person for doing that
Last scum left: Would your team even allow that though? The fact they were desperately trying to get rid of Polar implies that they wouldn't let any mate roll over and accept defeat.

Second last scum left: You and I can't prove this until endgame. This requires hindsight. Your theoretical team also wouldn't allow you to sub out when it's so close to the end game, would they? Remember, you're cooperating with a group. Your theoreticals are more believable if you rolled indie.

The issue with your current logic is you're basing all of this off scenarios that I can't predict or see for myself. You're not really giving much beyond that. These are things that require blind trust and a better read on you for future games. It's impossible to argue or agree with you over theoreticals.
 

Pot Goblin

Heisenbunny
bless you

Holy shit this is actually brilliant, I'm stealing this for future games

T-Pein [9] - Kiku, Fujishiro, Pot Goblin, Polar Bear, Mr. Reloaded, Dr. Watson, ConsquistadoR, Random Asshole, Midnight Delight

If Pero is correct and I'm correct, that's at least two scum in the T-wagon TM - Conq + Random bussing him?

Also, sorry, I forgot Kiku's flips
You people have no memorable faces to me so I mix people up alot or forget them entirely. Rhea makes me wonder whether she bussed him for town cred, too. People who have the last vote are in a perfect position to do so.
VC that caught my eye
 
Seems like it was because Alwaysmind was becoming the main lynch and she didn't want to vote there
Yeah, she was trying to avoid accountability

If she had voted for the LGH, more people would notice and Kiku and JG would have really hardcore pushed her.

Pretty good, I say, she did last a long time.

She was playing like an indie, not scum. I think that also explains my earlier hangup about the amount of work she put in, too.
 
I do think a point in your favor is that you didn't even need to claim a lie detect at all
Would've been very easy to lie about what you got
Are you leaning more towards this scenario still btw

Cos there's some major points in his favor obviously

It feels like the theory about hime and Arbitrary Anus is maybe even simply to induce paranoia - and it worked. Because it's really a fair point, too. The issue is the lack of proof.

Is there any way we could potentially clear RA?
 

Pot Goblin

Heisenbunny
(Orca, I see that deliverate italicized vote you sneaky goblin;))
DAY FOUR VOTE COUNT #1

Midnight Delight [3] - Peroroncino, Mr. Reloaded, hime
Peroroncino [1] - Polar Bear
hime [1] - Midnight Delight
Indigo [1] - The Orca


With fourteen alive - eight votes are required for a lynch to occur.

Countdown Timer – Countdown to 3 Sep 2023 05:50 in London, England (timeanddate.com)
FOR FUCKS SAKE

I MASONISED FUJI
THEN POLAR
THEN JOYGIRL

THERE

OKAY?
@Dr. Watson I nabbed some of it but I highly recommend reading the scenerio of Middy's claim starting with Pero's intial request for Middy to claim at the top

Somethin I was wrong about is that Orca put their votes on Middy early a couple times during it
 

Pot Goblin

Heisenbunny
Are you leaning more towards this scenario still btw

Cos there's some major points in his favor obviously

It feels like the theory about hime and Arbitrary Anus is maybe even simply to induce paranoia - and it worked. Because it's really a fair point, too. The issue is the lack of proof.

Is there any way we could potentially clear RA?
Only way to clear RA is with a flip
But imma be honest I do not think he is the path
 
Last scum left: Would your team even allow that though? The fact they were desperately trying to get rid of Polar implies that they wouldn't let any mate roll over and accept defeat.

Second last scum left: You and I can't prove this until endgame. This requires hindsight. Your theoretical team also wouldn't allow you to sub out when it's so close to the end game, would they? Remember, you're cooperating with a group. Your theoreticals are more believable if you rolled indie.

The issue with your current logic is you're basing all of this off scenarios that I can't predict or see for myself. You're not really giving much beyond that. These are things that require blind trust and a better read on you for future games. It's impossible to argue or agree with you over theoreticals.
If I'm last scum left, it doesn't matter what they want, Its my kill to send. And I wouldn't want to kill Polar Bear, especially with my interacting with him so soon before hand, and with Solid Snake being revealed. If they did go over my head, I 100% would have subbed out, or forfeited as the last player on scum standing. That would be the exact situation that Rion vs Matvel was lol.


Nah, if they go over my head, I'm 100% subbing out, especially if they use my kill on someone I didn't want to. I wouldn't have agreed to a Polar Bear kill, even if I was cooperating 100%


We are talking about if I was scum, so yeah its only theory. My only action in this game was to lie detect you. What Orca says didnt happen, so I had to point out what would have happened if I was scum. This does reliy on knowing me, but this entire conversation Orca started boils down to an even more ludicrous theory, considering my position in the game, how I've acted this game, and the very fact I claimed a LD in the first place instead of coasting or ignoring the gif. I did try to give it away to Rej or made it not collected remember that, it would have taken exactly 0 effort for me to ignore it, and never mention it. Even ignoring everything I said here, do you think any scum would attempt turn down a free ability? Let alone have to be corrected by the host multiple times until the host just has other people vote on it?

Unluckly that was an extended end of day situation and everyone wanted it to end soon.
 
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