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Yes, but admiral fans think Kizaru using his speed of light to Kick luffy who hasn't used advanced haki and his biggest powerup is a feat that makes him greater than Yonko. :gokulaugh:
Whenever I feel low and think I haven't achieved much i life, I log into WG and see Admiralfans' logic and feel accomplished.
It's implied that kick didn't even knock Luffy out, at most it damaged/hurt him but it didn't knock him out, so I don't know why people try to use this as definitive proof Kizaru is above Kaidou.
Also these are the same people that see Marco kick Kizaru into the ground and say it did no damage, but Kizaru kicks Luffy into the robot and suddenly it's this great feat that nobody can replicate.
 
Because Admirals > Yonko would be bad writing after all we have seen.
Like @Paperchampion23 said, it never made sense to scale by grouping in the first place.

Admiral & Fleet Admiral is as high as you can go in the marines. You don't get capped at "mid-high diff for the Yonko" just by having the admiral rank lol.

Unless people want to argue that joining the marines as opposed to becoming a pirate automatically means that you have less potential, which makes no sense.
 
Swordbois have no reading comprehension. Kizaru is hyping Luffy up and they think their dumb downplay is going to make Oda care about Zolo. Oda made Zolo fight someone Luffy negged earlier so if it is anything other than neg diff its over for swordbois.
Nah you've gone mad brah after realizing zboys were right, it's Zoro who's going to end up strongest, not Luffy.
 
even without CoC, G4 is very strong.
Gear4 Boundman without ACoC can't One Shot Doffy, Katakuri...got oneshoted by base Kaido.

Let's be honest Rooftop base Luffy > Boundman, so Boundman before Rooftop< Boundman Rooftop Luffy. Same goes for Snakeman.

Kizaru Blocking post Wano Snakeman are proofs that Kizaru> YC.
 
Ok but I doubt Oda hadn't thought of what he wants Kata's Awakening ability to be by that point. Do you really think Oda hadn't thought of what Kata's Awakening should be a few chapters before drawing it?
I’m not gonna lie to you, the specific time frame of releases and when Oda draws the chapters almost makes me think awakening IS the reason Oda decided on the retcon lol.
 
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Akainu fights against Kuma....nerfed kuma
Couldn't KO him even with meigou

I thought meigou could badly damage BM and Kaido and KO them?
:josad:No wonder why he couldn't KO Sikcbeard
Akainu named attacks can't even finish nerfed guys
 
Why do some Luffy fans insist on still wanking the Yonko despite Luffy fighting an admiral after he's already beaten a Yonko lmao
this is the thing lol..one piece was not always linear in facing opponents...it has been emphasized for very long time that yonkos >=admirals....of course it puts end to their beleif that yonko >> admiral or admirals are YC1 level, etc....

Also, Luffy is the new yonko...so he is not as strong as OG yonko....so it is also possible that other yonko vs admiral will go differently from how it was with Luffy vs Kizaru
 
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