Questions & Mysteries God Valley battle

[JoNdule]

To those who think it was 4v2 or 4v3 ,

Daily reminder that Oda usually draws silhouettes to summarise relevant characters but that's not actually how the battle went :

• We saw Sabo + 3 revos vs Admirals in the silhouette

Everyone thought it was 4v2, we did theories how Sabo is powerful and did damage on Admirals etc...
YET Sabo and Lindbergh never Admirals at all! It was actually 2v2 when Oda showed us everything afterwards


God Valley is the same :

• It wasn't Kaido, wb, Bm and Xebec vs Garp and Roger

It's actually silly to think a rookie Kaido would be there to help his captain face 2-3 top tiers and Shiki and others won't

With Oda adding Garling to the mix,
Soon he will tell us that Kong and Sengoku also participated!

The battle probably went like this :

• Xebec vs Roger & Garp
• Newgate vs Garling
• Linlin vs Garp or Kong. Might explain BM beef with Garp
• Shiki vs Sengoku, setting the start of their rivalry
• John vs Rayleigh
• Wang Zhi vs a CD Knight
• Axe vs Scopper (if he was there)
• Kaido vs... He got beat badly by that person or those people

@RayanOO @Sentinel @Hades @Playa4321 @Jailer

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Miss Bakkin vs Tsuru

 

[JoNdule]

Miss Bakkin vs Tsuru

I even forgot her

God Valley was probably the greatest battle where old Admirals and top marines + knights & roger pirates fought against Rocks pirates

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

To those who think it was 4v2 or 4v3 ,

Daily reminder that Oda usually draws silhouettes to summarise relevant characters but that's not actually how the battle went :

• We saw Sabo + 3 revos vs Admirals in the silhouette

Everyone thought it was 4v2, we did theories how Sabo is powerful and did damage on Admirals etc...
YET Sabo and Lindbergh never Admirals at all! It was actually 2v2 when Oda showed us everything afterwards


God Valley is the same :

• It wasn't Kaido, wb, Bm and Xebec vs Garp and Roger

It's actually silly to think a rookie Kaido would be there to help his captain face 2-3 top tiers and Shiki and others won't

With Oda adding Garling to the mix,
Soon he will tell us that Kong and Sengoku also participated!

The battle probably went like this :

• Xebec vs Roger & Garp
• Newgate vs Garling
• Linlin vs Garp or Kong. Might explain BM beef with Garp
• Shiki vs Sengoku, setting the start of their rivalry
• John vs Rayleigh
• Wang Zhi vs a CD Knight
• Axe vs Scopper (if he was there)
• Kaido vs... He got beat badly by that person or those people

@RayanOO @Sentinel @Hades @Playa4321 @Jailer

It was likely Rayleigh vs Garling or Rayleigh vs Whitebeard
Also, nothing implies Kaidou got beat badly, it could have been an extreme diff.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

It was likely Rayleigh vs Garling or Rayleigh vs Whitebeard
Also, nothing implies Kaidou got beat badly, it could have been an extreme diff.

People think was Garling vs Whitebeard, because when Shanks meet him during post Enies Lobby, Whitebeard says "Just seeing your face makes the wound given by that bastard ache again". He may be talking about Garling

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

People think was Garling vs Whitebeard, because when Shanks meet him during post Enies lLbby, Whitebeard says "Just seeing your face makes the wound given by that bastard ache again". He may be talking about Garling

That's.. A really good point lol
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People think was Garling vs Whitebeard, because when Shanks meet him during post Enies Lobby, Whitebeard says "Just seeing your face makes the wound given by that bastard ache again". He may be talking about Garling

Wait, we see pics of Primebeard after God Valley, and he still doesn't have the scars there.

 

[Just a member]

Ok, it could be almost everything since we know almost nothing but I'm pretty sure Sengoku was not there since he is the one telling to the younger marines that Garp was there but doesn't like to talk about that story (implying of course that he was not there). It could be that Bogard as Garp number 2 had a role but considering how he wasn't even mentioned when Aokiji and the BB pirates swarmed Garp and Coby plus young marines had to "save" the day.

 

[Extravlad]

Xebec is just another Buggy.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Xebec is just another Buggy.

Road to laugh tale confirmed he was the strongest roger adversary

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Garling vs son in law (Xabec)

 

[Extravlad]

Road to laugh tale confirmed he was the strongest roger adversary

Your garbage editor paper id doing nothing but quoting Sengoku's "perhaps the strongest" words which are worth nothing because he wasn't there and admitted Garp always refused to speak of what happened there

 

[MarineHQ]

I wonder which Top Tier will be the fraud of God Valley

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Your garbage editor paper id doing nothing but quoting Sengoku's "perhaps the strongest" words which are worth nothing because he wasn't there and admitted Garp always refused to speak of what happened there

Sengoku never said "strongest", but "greatest"

If xebec is a buggy, why kaido would put him alongside roger, whitebeard, shanks and oden?

 

[Extravlad]

Sengoku never said "strongest", but "greatest"

If xebec is a buggy, why kaido would put him alongside roger, whitebeard, shanks and oden?

Sengoku said the exact same thing the magazine is saying because the magazine is literally quoting the manga

Kaido is a fool who failed to see through Xebec's fraudulence just like Weevil will

Xebec - Buggy
WB - Mihawk
Shiki - Crocodile

Former Warlords will complete the line-ups

 

[JoNdule]

It was likely Rayleigh vs Garling or Rayleigh vs Whitebeard
Also, nothing implies Kaidou got beat badly, it could have been an extreme diff.

Rayleigh has nothing to do with WB
Also why would Ray fight Garling when Garling and Navy was fighting Rocks

Kaido was in bad shape, he got saved by Linlin
So he either lost or won barely
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Sengoku never said "strongest", but "greatest"

If xebec is a buggy, why kaido would put him alongside roger, whitebeard, shanks and oden?

Don't bother with that guy

Imagine thinking A fraud will lead conquerors like Kaido, WB, BM, Shiki... and will be Roger's greatest rival to a point it takes help to beat him in a fight
Someone whom Kaido hypes more

Stop wasting time with such users who are nothing but trolls

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's.. A really good point lol
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Wait, we see pics of Primebeard after God Valley, and he still doesn't have the scars there.

We also see primebeard after Rogers and his fight and he has no scar. Whitebeard got that scar after Rogers crew disbanded it seems.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Rayleigh has nothing to do with WB
Also why would Ray fight Garling when Garling and Navy was fighting Rocks

Kaido was in bad shape, he got saved by Linlin
So he either lost or won barely
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Don't bother with that guy

Imagine thinking A fraud will lead conquerors like Kaido, WB, BM, Shiki... and will be Roger's greatest rival to a point it takes help to beat him in a fight
Someone whom Kaido hypes more

Stop wasting time with such users who are nothing but trolls

I said it was an extreme diff it doesn't matter if Kaidou lost or won he was still about to die or get captured
And yes Rayleigh would fight WB since he's in a rival crew and they're at war with said rival crew.

We also see primebeard after Rogers and his fight and he has no scar. Whitebeard got that scar after Rogers crew disbanded it seems.

Yeah. Though Garling could have ran into him afterwards somehow and scarred him then.
Or Oda may even retcon Whitebeard's design a little to fit the timeline, who knows?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I said it was an extreme diff it doesn't matter if Kaidou lost or won he was still about to die or get captured
And yes Rayleigh would fight WB since he's in a rival crew and they're at war with said rival crew.

Yeah. Though Garling could have ran into him afterwards somehow and scarred him then.
Or Oda may even retcon Whitebeard's design a little to fit the timeline, who knows?

True, so who knows.

Imo I think Whitebeard met Garling after the Roger Pirates disbanded.

 

[gz89]

Stick to your donut lover cope threads.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

To those who think it was 4v2 or 4v3 ,

Daily reminder that Oda usually draws silhouettes to summarise relevant characters but that's not actually how the battle went :

• We saw Sabo + 3 revos vs Admirals in the silhouette

Everyone thought it was 4v2, we did theories how Sabo is powerful and did damage on Admirals etc...
YET Sabo and Lindbergh never Admirals at all! It was actually 2v2 when Oda showed us everything afterwards


God Valley is the same :

• It wasn't Kaido, wb, Bm and Xebec vs Garp and Roger

It's actually silly to think a rookie Kaido would be there to help his captain face 2-3 top tiers and Shiki and others won't

With Oda adding Garling to the mix,
Soon he will tell us that Kong and Sengoku also participated!

The battle probably went like this :

• Xebec vs Roger & Garp
• Newgate vs Garling
• Linlin vs Garp or Kong. Might explain BM beef with Garp
• Shiki vs Sengoku, setting the start of their rivalry
• John vs Rayleigh
• Wang Zhi vs a CD Knight
• Axe vs Scopper (if he was there)
• Kaido vs... He got beat badly by that person or those people

@RayanOO @Sentinel @Hades @Playa4321 @Jailer

• Kaido vs... He got beat badly by that person or those people

Why are you underestimating Kaido? Yes, even though he was still a rookie, his strength was undeniable. I feel that Kaido defeated Roger after, of course, Roger and Garp defeated Xebec, and Kaido defeated Sengoku. So, tired Kaido defeated tired Roger, and that was another thing covered up on that island and never came to the public eye.