Controversial General Political Discussion

[Malio]

Fighting back is acceptable,but targeting civilians is not.Even back in the middle ages this was seen as a disgusting and cowardly act,despite it being common ofc.Hamas should have focused the ground attack on military targets.Now they gave Israel the excuse they needed to deploy never before seen force on the gaza strip.

It seems to be acceptable for the Hebrew-speaking nazis with genocide on their minds. The same exact condemnation that's given to them should be given to the Palestinians, no more no less. Hamas has given 0 excuses to those bloodthirsty dogs. Hamas attacked a day or two ago.

The IDF has and I quote:

In July, Israel launched one of its biggest attacks on the occupied West Bank, killing at least 12 Palestinians in the Jenin refugee camp and wounding about 100 others.

The UN has said 2023 has been the deadliest year for Palestinians since it started counting deaths in 2006.

More than 200 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire since the start of this year, according to the health ministry. At least 35 Israelis were also killed in Palestinian attacks during the same period.

This is all due to 56 years of illegal occupation of the West Bank and 70+ years for Palestine as a whole.

 

[NAMELESS]

I'm just curious on what peoples thought attacking civilians was cowardly. And at what point of time. Because the Middle Ages is a large period.

I think i said a load of bull there.I take my L without shame.

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It seems to be acceptable for the Hebrew-speaking nazis with genocide on their minds. The same exact condemnation that's given to them should be given to the Palestinians, no more no less. Hamas has given 0 excuses to those bloodthirsty dogs. Hamas attacked a day or two ago.

The IDF has and I quote:

This is all due to 56 years of illegal occupation of the West Bank and 70+ years for Palestine as a whole.

Are these Palestinians Hamas fighters or civilians killed in bombings?

 

[Malio]

I think i said a load of bull there.I take my L without shame.

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Are these Palestinians Hamas fighters or civilians killed in bombings?

These deaths come as a direct result of homes, schools, hospitals, and those praying in mosques being targetted by the IDF, so civilians

 

[NAMELESS]

Yes, not dying at the hands of the communist party

That guy wants to pacify Israel-Palestine by turning the region into communist dictatorship lmfao. This is the craziest idea i have seen here.

 

[AL sama]

It would be better than the current system in israel

I didn't wanna bring this up but do you've any idea of how islam portrays jews and the deep seeded hatred between muslims and jews??

 

[NAMELESS]

I didn't wanna bring this up but do you've any idea of how islam portrays jews and the deep seeded hatred between muslims and jews??

We have both Jews and Muslims here in Brazil,i don't recall ever reading anything similar to what happens in Israel-Palestine happening here.I think this issue is more of a middle eastern thing.You know...years of conflict,land disputes and cultural shock(Jews are westernized while Arabs are not).

 

[Malakhith]

In my opinion, unfortunately there's no way to solve the issue using conventional means. Any solution that gives some sovereign power to Palestinians would not be accepted by Israel because of geopolitical concerns and anything less than that will not be accepted by the other party.

Unfortunately, a large number of people will end up dead because of it. At this point, I don't doubt that many generals in Israel are evaluating the pros and cons of a small genocide to eliminate the threat.

 

[NAMELESS]

In my opinion, unfortunately there's no way to solve the issue using conventional means. Any solution that gives some sovereign power to Palestinians would not be accepted by Israel because of geopolitical concerns and anything less than that will not be accepted by the other party.

Unfortunately, a large number of people will end up dead because of it. At this point, I don't doubt that many generals in Israel are evaluating the pros and cons of a small genocide to eliminate the threat.

Genocide is very possible.Over a 1000 deaths in all sides in less than 48 hours.What will happen when Israel raids Gaza?

 

[AL sama]

We have both Jews and Muslims here in Brazil,i don't recall ever reading anything similar to what happens in Israel-Palestine happening here.I think this issue is more of a middle eastern thing.You know...years of conflict,land disputes and cultural shock(Jews are westernized while Arabs are not).

in brazil both groups are in minority right??

so its normal that there isn't any conflict

however same can't be said for israel and palestine

 

[Malakhith]

Genocide is very possible.Over a 1000 deaths in all sides in less than 48 hours.What will happen when Israel raids Gaza?

Frankly, the only reason why I'm still in doubt is because of Israel neighbors. If they play their cards wrong there's a very real possibility of another 6-day war that can really destroy the region since Israel has so many allies.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I didn't wanna bring this up but do you've any idea of how islam portrays jews and the deep seeded hatred between muslims and jews??

I don’t think islam itself portrays Jews that badly. I believe it says we’re dhimmis.

But I think due to Zionism and antisemitism towards Jews in Muslim countries, there is a lot of hatred at the moment.

but I don’t think it has to be that way.

 

[AL sama]

I don’t think islam itself portrays Jews that badly. I believe it says we’re dhimmis.

But I think due to Zionism and antisemitism towards Jews in Muslim countries, there is a lot of hatred at the moment.

but I don’t think it has to be that way.

bro I m a muslim and trust me the portrayal isn't justified at all

also the hatred is too deep you should try reading some islamic historical records

 

[NAMELESS]

in brazil both groups are in minority right??

so its normal that there isn't any conflict

however same can't be said for israel and palestine

Yes,they are a minority,but i have seen both Muslim and Jews casually chilling here.I think the hatred we see in this conflict stems more from the history of the region than the religion itself.

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bro I m a muslim and trust me the portrayal isn't justified at all

also the hatred is too deep you should try reading some islamic historical records

Same thing with Christians.Jews have been systematically persecuted in European history.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

bro I m a muslim and trust me the portrayal isn't justified at all

also the hatred is too deep you should try reading some islamic historical records

Yeah I try to give y’all the benefit of the doubt.

but I know that the Islamic countries did often mistreat Jews. Which is partially why israel is so anti Palestinian.

I think like 40-50% of israelis are Sephardic, meaning a lot of them came from Muslim countries(some Sephardim also come from latin America).

 

[AL sama]

Yes,they are a minority,but i have seen both Muslim and Jews casually chilling here.I think the hatred we see in this conflict stems more from the history of the region than the religion itself.

no lol its mainly due to religion

however you won't find many extremists if the groups are in minority

I think like 40-50% of israelis are Sephardic, meaning a lot of them came from Muslim countries(some Sephardim also come from latin America).

as far as I know it should be the opposite but I could be wrong

 

[NAMELESS]

is this accurate?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

no lol its mainly due to religion

however you won't find many extremists if the groups are in minority

as far as I know it should be the opposite but I could be wrong

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews

initially, Israelis were predominantly ashkenazi, but after the first Arab Israeli war, Jews started to get expelled from Arab countries.

 

[NAMELESS]

no lol its mainly due to religion

however you won't find many extremists if the groups are in minority

as far as I know it should be the opposite but I could be wrong

Brazil is kinda of a weird place,not many people take religion here seriously.Maybe my biases are clouding my judgment in this matter.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

That guy wants to pacify Israel-Palestine by turning the region into communist dictatorship lmfao. This is the craziest idea i have seen here.

He also think a Jewish-Muslim royal marrige is a logical solution
He's nuts

 

[NAMELESS]

He also think a Jewish-Muslim royal marrige is a logical solution
He's nuts

Lets not bully the guy now.At least he tried to cook something new.