Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

How is it different?
Hamas is the political entity ruling the Gaza strip.
If we are talking semantics like you are doing and I disagree with, if you say that IDF -> Israeli, then Hamas -> palestinian.
And I am sure you are not implying that all palestinian are terrorists.

What i got from it,Hamas was elected and they had legitimacy early on,but then they started persecuting and executing their political opponents and became a full blown terrorist group?Am i wrong(genuine question,no sarcasm).They are different from the actual Palestine authority.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

No its not. There are rules about free speech every where you go. You have rules too.

There are two rules people usually apply to free speech. Do you know what they are?

 

[NAMELESS]

I'm convinced that Oda drew the Native Hunt and Sorbet Kingdom border in the recent One Piece chapters to parallel Israel.

I think he planned that beforehand.Its isn't exactly the same thing.Sorbet Kingdom was unified under the same regime,culture,etc...Israel-Palestine were never like this.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@Toby D. Dog relax and take care of your mental health, leave this thread for a while.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

What i got from it,Hamas was elected and they had legitimacy early on,but then they started persecuting and executing their political opponents and became a full blown terrorist group?Am i wrong(genuine question,no sarcasm).They are different from the actual Palestine authority.

I am not interested in discussing semantics of what is terrorism, what is Hamas and if IDF is a terrorist organisation or an army. APologies, I can see you have good faith and ask good questions, but I really have no intention of opening this thread now.

 

[Logiko]

There are two rules people usually apply to free speech. Do you know what they are?

Enlighten me

 

[NAMELESS]

Lol you are silly, imposing limits to what is said is typically an Authoritarian move.
Every single fascist state banned free speech.

C4N believes in the state controlling what people can or cannot say.French.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

@Toby D. Dog relax and take care of your mental health, leave this thread for a while.

I haven't done anything.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

I'm convinced that Oda drew the Native Hunt and Sorbet Kingdom border in the recent One Piece chapters to parallel Israel.

I wouldn't be surprised if he did. And we know which side of the sorbet kingdom was the aggressors and which were the victims.

But it's "confusing" in real life

Ah right, it was you.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjsjifcft



Sorry @Gaimon The Pirate for tagging you

Okay?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

No its not. There are rules about free speech every where you go. You have rules too.
We are not talking about banning free speech here, stop the strawman. I'm talking about stopping someone from posting pro crypto fascist propaganda on a popular forum.

Just like the church banned free speech for erethic ideas, just like fascism executed politcal opponents that openly criticised them or exiled them, free speech comes with the implication that you are FREE to SPEAK.
There can be no limit, because whoever enforces the limit must break someone else's freedom.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Enlighten me

No doxxing or direct threats of violence. Among some unspoken restrictions on obscenity depending on the medium etc etc.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

C4N believes in the state controlling what people can or cannot say.French.

Stop being Francophobic

I haven't done anything.

I see you exploding here again. It's not worth it. Don't waste your time on these internet weirdos.

 

[NAMELESS]

I don't care about their structure. Hamas has been the de-facto leaders of Gaza for years now. Are they not terrorists? THe Israeli state operates and sponsors terror via the IDF. Next time try to at least have a little bit of intellectual honesty before accusing me of some wild shit.

wild shit?i have seen other users pointing exactly that about your behavior. I still have that print about you saying you came here to shit on people without repercussion.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I see you exploding here again. It's not worth it. Don't waste your time on these internet weirdos.

True, I've been trying to stay away from that shit.

 

[NikaInParis]

do people ever question why these terrorists only ever attack civilians

The only people they can contest face-to-face

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

True, I've been trying to stay away from that shit.

It's wasted time,most people here are stupid toddlers anyways

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

do people ever question why these terrorists only ever attack civilians

Civilians can't fight back. It's the same way most Serial Killers target women and kids, easier targets and they know they can win

 

[Toby D. Dog]

wild shit?i have seen other users pointing exactly that about your behavior. I still have that print about you saying you came here to shit on people without repercussion.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but that's half of what happens in this forum. Stop getting involved in my shit. You purposefully misrepresented what I said just like that guy in order to antagonize me.

 

[Logiko]

Maybe instead of calling it propaganda people can post stuff from the other side like the settler violence (which has increased since the war started and is adding fuel to the fire).

Here is a picture from the other side:

You still don't understand that you are promoting GENOCIDE here ?

C4N believes in the state controlling what people can or cannot say.French.

No. That's a bad and wrong strawman

Just like the church banned free speech for erethic ideas, just like fascism executed politcal opponents that openly criticised them or exiled them, free speech comes with the implication that you are FREE to SPEAK.
There can be no limit, because whoever enforces the limit must break someone else's freedom.

Tell me, do you think its bad that mod are prohibiting murder speech here ?

 

[NAMELESS]

I try to be as dry and objective and possible posting the telegram stuff. I simply post the picture and translate as best as I can to English.
Of course there's gonna be some bias of a side reporting on itself, like the tweet posted here of settler vs palestinian attacks in the west bank, wasn't posted on Telegram and I wasn't aware of it. Maybe instead of calling it propaganda people can post stuff from the other side like the settler violence (which has increased since the war started and is adding fuel to the fire).

I don't think I said anything outside of free speech, like inciting violence, threatening people, doxxing people, stocastic terrorism, etc. If you think I did, then report and ban me

I think reddit banned footage from Hamas,which i think is dumb,because such footage is proof.
Johny,its not about the pics.Some people here a stoning you because of your stances on Israel and because you are Israeli.Put them on igonre.They are not worth it.The pics are just excuses to be assholes.