Character Discussion King is a fusion of Ace, Joz and Marco.

[Artem]

Mihawk didn't beat anyone decent since the manga started so you are lying from your butt again, he isn't killing anyone lmao.

Where is the page Teach is trying to defeat SHawk but failing clown? You were lying due to desperation.

Zolo + Kaku puffing vs SHawk :

Show me where Teach was even trying vs them clown.

Zolo needed 2 special swords + Haki to block a much weaker slash, SHawk wasn't going to cut a mountain there, he was restricted to not damage Egghead island.

While Teach blocks SHawk's mountain slash with 1 barehand only.

Zoro without a bandana with two swords looks better in battle with a Mini Mihawk than a Teach who pissed himself out of fear

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Cute fanfic..

Cute fanfic..

Manga bro. You should read it.

 

[minamoto]

Zoro without a bandana with two swords looks better in battle with a Mini Mihawk than a Teach who pissed himself out of fear

i see u watsh lot of cartoonz..wich is why u give childish repliez..

 

[Artem]

i see u watsh lot of cartoonz..wich is why u give childish repliez..

Don't cry

 

[minamoto]

Don't cry

i cry of pity for u😢..

 

[Artem]

i cry of pity for u😢..

Whiny bitch

 

[minamoto]

Whiny bitch

i feel for u so mush..how does it feel when u ge bulied by ur peerz😢..

 

[Artem]

i feel for u so mush..how does it feel when u ge bulied by ur peerz😢..

i feel for u so mush..how does it feel when u ge bulied by ur peerz😢..

You're so boring.... Better bow to Zoro :cheers:

 

[minamoto]

You're so boring.... Better bow to Zoro :cheers:

mihawks potatoes knife >>> zolol...now bow to me foder..

 

[Artem]

mihawks potatoes knife >>> zolol...now bow to me foder..

Mihawk>>Zoro, but with yoru:cheers:

 

[grey matter]

At first, I thought it was something nonsensical, but you convinced me. King's durability is above Jozu's because Jozu's has disadvantages. King's flames are indeed hotter than Ace's, and finally, King has a resistance that exceeds Marco's. He also possesses supernatural recovery and the ability to fly in two ways, in Base form, Zoan, and hybrid...

While Kaido is the strongest in the three worlds—land, sea, and air—transcending all living beings, all existence in power.

Marco's recovery is far superior to King's, while King is much harder to damage than Marco. They are both extremely tanky, for different reasons.

I'd presume Jozu is harder to damage than King, but like you said he has the disadvantage that he needs to activate and focus to get that durability.

King is a little bit of all, extremely versatile & powerful.

His Fire Manipulation is more potent than Ace's but he doesnt generate nearly as much as Ace does.

Kuma is referred to as the "Invincible Slave" by all CDs, Kata was called "Invincible" by Luffy when his Fs is active, Marco by Queen when his Regen is active & King/Seraphim by Zoro when his flames were on.

I wonder if its just coincidence... :zorothink:

I don't see any big difference in AOE between King and Ace.

Ace generated an attack half the size of the island.
King also generated an AOE explosion as big as the onigashima Castle. Onigashima Castle is more than half of the island in size.
With others yeah, Marco and Jozu are in some ways better in their forte.
But with Ace, King is just straight up better.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I'd presume Jozu is harder to damage than King, but like you said he has the disadvantage that he needs to activate and focus to get that durability.

I don't understand why you state this?
Jozu is made of diamond, he does not to "activate" or "focus".
A fruit changes the property of your body in that feature, i.e. luffy is rubber.
The need to activate for a paramisha does not exist. You can use the feature on command, but you are made of the property.
Mr. 3 cannot choose to not be made of wax in Impel Down, luffy is always rubber in skypeya, hence ener cannot damage him.

 

[Jailer]

Marco's recovery is far superior to King's, while King is much harder to damage than Marco. They are both extremely tanky, for different reasons.

I'd presume Jozu is harder to damage than King, but like you said he has the disadvantage that he needs to activate and focus to get that durability.



I don't see any big difference in AOE between King and Ace.

Ace generated an attack half the size of the island.
King also generated an AOE explosion as big as the onigashima Castle. Onigashima Castle is more than half of the island in size.
With others yeah, Marco and Jozu are in some ways better in their forte.
But with Ace, King is just straight up better.

Based on statements I don't think there's anyone more durable than king/lunarian flame on. They are basically invincible/invulnerable to damage with flame on even post KoH Zoro stated that vs King/Seraphims.

Oda has done a poor job explaining how their on off switch activates explaining jackshit, which is whythis is a stupid ability why would King ever turn his flame off.

 

[grey matter]

I don't understand why you state this?
Jozu is made of diamond, he does not to "activate" or "focus".
A fruit changes the property of your body in that feature, i.e. luffy is rubber.
The need to activate for a paramisha does not exist. You can use the feature on command, but you are made of the property.
Mr. 3 cannot choose to not be made of wax in Impel Down, luffy is always rubber in skypeya, hence ener cannot damage him.

We can clearly see when Jozu uses his diamond versus not, it cannot be more obvious visually. Not at DFs are built the same, Jozu needs to activate his.
There is a reason why Jozu got negged by Aokiji when he was off guard, while he could hold his own pretty well when on guard. If he's as durable all the time, it wouldn't have mattered if he was off guard.

Baby5 isn't always a weapon, Wapol isn't always a tank, Magellan isn't always covered by poison, Oven isn't always at high temperation etc.
Many such examples.

 

[Cruxroux]

I don't understand why you state this?
Jozu is made of diamond, he does not to "activate" or "focus".
A fruit changes the property of your body in that feature, i.e. luffy is rubber.
The need to activate for a paramisha does not exist. You can use the feature on command, but you are made of the property.
Mr. 3 cannot choose to not be made of wax in Impel Down, luffy is always rubber in skypeya, hence ener cannot damage him.

Lmao this is comedy.
- Jozu have to activate his Dusnind form.
- Luffy is an exception we all know that lol. Doflamingo isn't thread , he controls thread , Mr 3 isn't candle , he controls wax.
- Mr 3 suffering in impel down level 3 is simply wrong match up comedy lol. And that's just in anime.
- mr 3 can only produce it and control it not transform into it.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

We can clearly see when Jozu uses his diamond versus not, it cannot be more obvious visually. Not at DFs are built the same, Jozu needs to activate his.
There is a reason why Jozu got negged by Aokiji when he was off guard, while he could hold his own pretty well when on guard. If he's as durable all the time, it wouldn't have mattered if he was off guard.

Baby5 isn't always a weapon, Wapol isn't always a tank, Magellan isn't always covered by poison, Oven isn't always at high temperation etc.
Many such examples.

I believe this is a stretch and you are assuming a lot of things that are openly contradicted by what is shown.
Baby 5 can become any weapon, but Jozu is diamond. Luffy was rubber. Mr 3 is Wax. Katakuri is Mochi. Luffy does not activate rubber power, nor does mr3, and it's actually stated that they always are their property.
When luffy is in water, he is still stretchy while passed out, which really proves you dont need to activate your power.
Never once in manga is stated that you havr to "activate" or you are a normal human.
Wapol eats and becomes, it is conditional on what he eats.

 

[Cruxroux]

I believe this is a stretch and you are assuming a lot of things that are openly contradicted by what is shown.
Baby 5 can become any weapon, but Jozu is diamond. Luffy was rubber. Mr 3 is Wax. Katakuri is Mochi. Luffy does not activate rubber power, nor does mr3, and it's actually stated that they always are their property.
When luffy is in water, he is still stretchy while passed out, which really proves you dont need to activate your power.
Never once in manga is stated that you havr to "activate" or you are a normal human.
Wapol eats and becomes, it is conditional on what he eats.

Again lol.
Katakuri is special Paramacia and Luffy isn't even Paramacia.
Mr 3 , can only produce and control it. Can't transform into it.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Lmao this is comedy.
- Jozu have to activate his Dusnind form.
- Luffy is an exception we all know that lol. Doflamingo isn't thread , he controls thread , Mr 3 isn't candle , he controls wax.
- Mr 3 suffering in impel down level 3 is simply wrong match up comedy lol. And that's just in anime.
- mr 3 can only produce it and control it not transform into it.

No it is also in the manga.
But ok, feel free to show me a panel where oda states that you have to activate your powers for them to work, otherwise you it's like not having.

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Again lol.
Katakuri is special Paramacia and Luffy isn't even Paramacia.
Mr 3 , can only produce and control it. Can't transform into it.

Jozu cannot produce, he is.

 

[Cruxroux]

Jozu cannot produce, he is.

No he's not.
He "transform" his body parts into diamond. He can't produce or control it. There's a reason why he's body is all stiff when he used his power. He can't move.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

No he's not.
He "transform" his body parts into diamond. He can't produce or control it.

So he transforms his body into diamond.
But only parts.
How is he any different from Mr.1?
Do you think mr.1 has to activate his power?
And again, if you think so, where is it stated?

 

[Cruxroux]

So he transforms his body into diamond.
But only parts.
How is he any different from Mr.1?
Do you think mr.1 has to activate his power?
And again, if you think so, where is it stated?

They aren't always their specific element.

Logia - can transform into it.
Paramacia - produce and control it

Only naturally occuring elements are Logia. Paramacia are human made.