Hi guys, what if the reason behind Kuma's weird behavior wasn't his instinct, but someone made modifications, and built the electrical circuit VP talked about into Kuma, so that Kuma can regain his consciousness.

Given that only VP knows how to build that circuit, and that he doesn't know why Kuma is behaving so weird, this makes VP clones as the only people who can make it, it's true that we didn't see them in Kuma's flashback but that doesn't mean that they weren't existing, maybe VP was able to have one clone before erasing Kuma's consciousness, and that clone is Shaka.

Shaka the one who represents "good" among VP's clones, might have dismantled it the self destruction switch as well.
and the reason why VP doesn't know about this, is that Shaka didn't share those informations with the pank records, just like what York did.
 

Seven7

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I forgot their feats, but outright slam them?
Idk about that, Feitan and Phinks are nasty, especially Feitan's Pain Packer

But Morel is good too

Nen abilities are too hard to gauge against eache other imo
Slam was a bit of an exaggeration but knuckle hard counters Feitan considering he doesn't do damage during Apr just gives nen back negating pain packer
Easy bankrupt

-Morel is a support that has great feats of a human nen user outside the top tiers,

-- Beat 2 squadron leaders when Feitan struggled with one
-- Has the highest number of aura knuckle has seen outside of the royal guards
-- 200 + Super strength smoke puppets

- They can't even hope of beating knuckle before Apr concludes considering he has comparable physical stats to kite

Plus Morel has smokey jail to trap phinks from helping feitan

I don't see how they win
100% morel might make this a mid diff tbh
 
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Slam was a bit of an exaggeration but knuckle hard counters Feitan considering he doesn't do damage during Apr just gives nen back negating pain packer
Easy bankrupt

-Morel is a support that has great feats outside of a human nen user outside the top tiers,

Beat 2 squadron leaders when Feitan struggled with one
And has the highest number of aura knuckle has seen outside of the royal guards

- They can't even hope beating knuckle before Apr concludes considering he has comparable physical stats to kite

Plus Morel has smokey jail to trap phinks from helping feitan

I don't see how they win
Hey, I'm too uninformed to even argue differently so I'll agree with everything you wrote:cheers:

Although, the Spiders could receive some buffs and/or better portrayal in the current arc (if it ever continues ofc)
 

RayanOO

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Slam was a bit of an exaggeration but knuckle hard counters Feitan considering he doesn't do damage during Apr just gives nen back negating pain packer
Easy bankrupt

-Morel is a support that has great feats of a human nen user outside the top tiers,

-- Beat 2 squadron leaders when Feitan struggled with one
-- Has the highest number of aura knuckle has seen outside of the royal guards
-- 200 + Super strength smoke puppets

- They can't even hope beating knuckle before Apr concludes considering he has comparable physical stats to kite

Plus Morel has smokey jail to trap phinks from helping feitan

I don't see how they win
100% morel might make this a mid diff tbh
I pretty sure you’re overestimating Morel and Knuckle and / or underestimating Feitan / Phinks

Those two are the strongest spider members (outside Chrollo obviously)

yeah APR can counter Feitan Hatsu but Feitan is still a pain in CqC even without hatsu with just sword and nen mastery.

Morel is smart strong and experienced I think he is at this general level.

But Morel by no means can mid diff a high end spider

Morel beat two squadron leaders but it wasn’t easy fights at all. And Zazan was super strong too. Feitan destroyed her with Pain packer. And she kinda countered him given she was durability oriented (him being speed and AP oriented)
 

Seven7

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Hey, I'm too uninformed to even argue differently so I'll agree with everything you wrote:cheers:

Although, the Spiders could receive some buffs and/or better portrayal in the current arc (if it ever continues ofc)
Considering the flashback I'm thinking the opposite

I just hope nobunaga shows his Hatsu before getting packed up
It's bad enough he's considered a killua borderline Gon victim by the fandom already

Uvo has monstrous physical strength to fall back on.
What does my boy nobunaga have?
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