citizens should get those jobs not foreigners



black people in the hood,homeless men and white family's in poor trailer parks all need those jobs and should be getting them before mexicans do


fix our own poor and unemployed popluation then try adding more people here
There are enough jobs for everyone. The issue with homelessness isn’t merely about access to employment.

A lot of chronically homeless people have mental illnesses, disability, and addictions they haven’t received care for.
 
I think we can help all Americans as well as immigrants.

it’s not the liberals that are against helping women and black people

there are finite number of job openings and finite number of businnesses


you cant give every single person


a job, it's just not possible



and what person would suggest it's bad to help american black people and women


id entirely be opposed if it was helping rich women or rich black people but only cause more lower class black people and women need the help more and cause fuck rich people
 
There are enough jobs for everyone. The issue with homelessness isn’t merely about access to employment.

A lot of chronically homeless people have mental illnesses, disability, and addictions they haven’t received care for.

so black homeless people are disabled and just are stupid


that's why their broke not generational weath or pressure on the lower class


just cause they are dumb



that's so progressive of you, to call homeless people retarded
 
Define illegal
Define immigrant

illegal, not legally allowed


so in this context. it's saying get legal citizenship as opposed to just running over the border undocumented


and immigrant is literally any person not born in the country


my grand parents are both immigrants from the US


my great grandfather was is a german immigrant who moved to the US at a later age
 
The results of science shouldnt depend on who does the research. That completely defeats the purpose of it
That's how it works mates.
:kayneshrug:

Any scientist epistemologist will confirm you that the science process inherently comes with biases. You cannot escape it. Simply because this is a human action and we are full of biases.

I already proved you guys in late december with clear researched papers that there was sexist bias in the science process and science access. You choosed to ignore that. But I'm someone that doesn't give up, so here is another article from a completely different field of science explaining why bias in science is still a thing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1761670/

Doing science =/= creating objectivity. Science is simply a discipline created to understand our reality better, its not perfect... Simply because we are not perfect.


trump ran on hating the system


calling all the media fake news, he was the furthest you can get from status quo whilie still being a rich billionaire
Damn, you really are lost if you think that Donald Trump is against the status quo and against the removal of his priviledges...


Science care.

And you are disregarding it.


but im not counting sociology* as a science
Then you are anti science. Simple as that.

:kayneshrug:


science is defined as a study of nature
Wrong.

Science means "the additions of knowledges". Its a discipline that consist in creating knowledges, organizing them and make testable results.


i dont need to be right wing or left wing to accept stars exist, it's not the same case with leftist college degrees
Indeed, you just need to be educated on astronomy. Which is only one discipline of Science.
To understand what I'm talking about, you need to be educated on social sciences another fields of scientific discipline. And right now, you are not.


Then the Illegal Aliens should stop trying to Illegally Enter
When you live in cities where you can barely buy food and water and when you or your children risk to be killed, executed or kidnapped everyday... maybe you might wanna consider moving... even illegally if you have no choice.

With that kind of ignorant behavior, don't expect someone to welcome you one day if you have no other choices but to cross a border illegally for you and your family to survive a crisis.

You don't seem to have any deeper understanding of what you are even talking about.
I don't seem, maybe, but I am. And you would be wise to consider listening to me when I talk about colonialism, racism and progressive issues.


Educate yourself before you call other people's post silly or false.
Everyday. I did not wait for you.

Now, you still haven't replied to me: What are you considering "racist stereotype"s in the populations of the Shandians and the Torino Kingdom ?
 

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Argonauts, roll out!
I'm going to simplify the issue, illegal immigrants are illegal. They are breaking the law to get into the country, so why then should the law apply to someone who is 1, not a citizen and 2, disregarding the law of the country to begin with?

I understand the humanitarian aspect of the argument, but the fact of the matter is there are many bad apples exploiting the fact the borders are so lax.

In the end of the day the priority should be the citizens and those who come respecting the law entering legally.
And when the ordinary man is being jeopardised by the lax immigration, then something has to be done about it. And when the highest order of law isn't going to do anything about it, then it's the people who will, and at that point anything goes because they're at wit's end.
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That's how it works mates.
:kayneshrug:

Any scientist epistemologist will confirm you that the science process inherently comes with biases. You cannot escape it. Simply because this is a human action and we are full of biases.
Yes, you have a bias when doing science because you are trying to prove a concept. However the concept is based on preexisting knowledge, and as you say trying to expand that knowledge will require to theorise about why certain things works the way they do.
But the results of research should and will always be neutral, it's not any political aspect about it.

And when one scientist/ group of scientist has gotten a result, many other independent groups of scientists will try to recreate the result to confirm or deny the credibility of the findings.

So while you are technically right that some assumptions has to be made in order to try to prove something, the science itself is completely neutral.
 
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Damn, you really are lost if you think that Donald Trump is against the status quo and against the removal of his priviledges...

i said he's as anti status quo as rich billionaire can get


how is he the status quo if the status quo removed his priviledges


status quo agasint status quo??





and cnn hated on him for years as did the entire democratic party


are democrats not status quo?
Science means "the additions of knowledges". Its a discipline that consist in creating knowledges, organizing them and make testable results.
Doing science =/= creating objectivity. Science is simply a discipline created to understand our reality better, its not perfect... Simply because we are not perfect.


so you suggest it's both objective knoweldge and it's also not




can you stay consistent for a single fucking second


To understand what I'm talking about, you need to be educated on social sciences another fields of scientific discipline. And right now, you are not.

you said it's biased and not objective


why should we take it seriously when even by your own quotes


it's pretty much proganda
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So while you are technically right that some assumptions has to be made in order to try to prove something, the science itself is completely neutral.


social science is leftist proganda



and im to reject it along with every other goverment instuition


news media


laws and legal system


and academia



all of it is a sham
 
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That guy and his entire family are illegal immigrants themselves. Ignore this cocaine fuelled idiot.
If you want to play this game I’m fine with it, insult me as much as you want. But don’t go after my family you virgin friendless loser. If anybody has cocaine all their way up his ass is you, you little wanna be favela gangster. Even if my parents were illegals, at least I can take solace in the fact that they love me, not like you, you unwanted fuck.

go fuel somebody else’s racist fantasies at least, that guy 100% looks down on you and what you are.
 
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I understand the humanitarian aspect of the argument
Obviously no, you don't.


because you are trying to prove a concept
Not because you are trying to prove a concept, because you are human and humans have natural and social biases.


But the results of research should and will always be neutral
It will never be. Even with the current scientific process. The act of researching more knowledge is by essence a moral act toward progress. The act of doing science will therefore NEVER be neutral. Neutrality in science simply can't exist.

And the process of peer review doesn't change that. Its simple logic. The maximum potential of a group can't exceed the potential of the best element of the group. Add that the fact that all human have natural and social biases and you end up with a discipline that can only minimize biases that we are able to minimize ourselves. And minimalizing biases is something that is extremelly hard to do.

Therefore we are doomned to see resurface biases not only in researches but also in the scientific process as well.

i said he's as anti status quo as rich billionaire can get
When a billionnaires do everything, even use the system to keep their status and fortune, they are the EMBODIEMENT of status co my guy.

You have everything backward. Its not because Donald Trump say that he is anti-system and anti woke that he is really against this system. In reality he isn't. He uses EACH inch of the system to do unethical things without being accounted for, he uses the system to promote his propaganda (yes, Fox news and social medias are part of the system mate), he uses the system to prevent himself from going to jail because of rape and sexual assault... Etc..

He is literally one of the billionnaire that promote capitalism and neoliberalism the MOST.

He IS the system. Its because of the system that he was elected in the first place mate.

The fact that progressist liberal and progressive media are going against a far right lunatic like him is just normal and ethical, its not the status co dude.


so you suggest it's both objective knoweldge and it's also not
No. Reread what I said.


can you stay consistent for a single fucking second
Can you learn to read please mate ?


you said it's biased and not objective


why should we take it seriously when even by your own quotes
The scientific process is the best methodology we have to understand our world so all scientific process must be taken seriously.

Now, Science being bias doesn't mean that it can't produce objective results. It just means that we need to be very careful about the science we are creating because biases can exist.

It doesn't negate the quality of science. It only reminds us that it is not a divine but only a human method.


social science is leftist proganda
Nop. It just happen that social sciences creates results that are leaning toward progressism and therefore that can be used by the left side of the political spectrum.

You can deny the legitimacy of this scientific discipline all you want, but it will make you an anti science guy.
Your choice.:kayneshrug:


and im to reject it along with every other goverment instuition
Then you can now call yourself "the anti science guy".

Sorry.
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