General & Others In Chinese Mythology, Luffy represents the Tiger.

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Alright, so it's time to put an end to all this confusion going around regarding the whole "The Tiger vs The Dragon" theme that is going on in Wano, regarding Kaido. All people seem to acknowledge is that there is a Tiger vs Dragon theme, without doing so much as taking a second to do any type of research into the lore and symbology behind it.

I see a lot of "Zoro's animal is the Tiger, so therefore Zoro is the one who represents the Tiger in the fight against Kaido." This is 100 percent wrong. Zoro's spirit animal is represented by the Tiger. The Tiger as a spirit animal symbolizes strength and courage. This fits Zoro to the tee. Just like Luffy's spirit animal of the Monkey, which represents good Luck, and a playful and lighthearted nature fits him to a tee. But that's as far as their spirit animals go.

In the actual lore and symbolism behind the Chinese Mythology of the "Tiger vs. the Dragon", Zoro is nothing like the Tiger. In fact, Zoro's personality would be more akin to being a representation of the Dragon in this scenario, with Luffy's personality being more akin to the Tiger.

Those who are represented by the Dragon will usually be wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back". While those who are represented by the Tiger will usually be passionate, driven, enthusiastic, wild, and/or other traits seen as "Hot Blooded".

It is also to be noted that the Tiger and the Dragon are seen to be complete polar opposites, while also at the same time they are similar. As you can see, the Mythology behind the Tiger vs the Dragon is the exact portrayal of Luffy and Kaido.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Alright, so it's time to put an end to all this confusion going around regarding the whole "The Tiger vs The Dragon" theme that is going on in Wano, regarding Kaido. All people seem to acknowledge is that there is a Tiger vs Dragon theme, without doing so much as taking a second to do any type of research into the lore and symbology behind it.

I see a lot of "Zoro's animal is the Tiger, so therefore Zoro is the one who represents the Tiger in the fight against Kaido." This is 100 percent wrong. Zoro's spirit animal is represented by the Tiger. The Tiger as a spirit animal symbolizes strength and courage. This fits Zoro to the tee. Just like Luffy's spirit animal of the Monkey, which represents good Luck, and a playful and lighthearted nature fits him to a tee. But that's as far as their spirit animals go.

In the actual lore and symbolism behind the Chinese Mythology of the "Tiger vs. the Dragon", Zoro is nothing like the Tiger. In fact, Zoro's personality would be more akin to being a representation of the Dragon in this scenario, with Luffy's personality being more akin to the Tiger.

Those who are represented by the Dragon will usually be wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back". While those who are represented by the Tiger will usually be passionate, driven, enthusiastic, wild, and/or other traits seen as "Hot Blooded".

It is also to be noted that the Tiger and the Dragon are seen to be complete polar opposites, while also at the same time they are similar. As you can see, the Mythology behind the Tiger vs the Dragon is the exact portrayal of Luffy and Kaido.

I like your post and agree with you but when it comes to themes of fights such as "Luffy vs Kaido" it is clear that the theme of that fight is "Monkey King vs Dragon king"

In this video you can see the relationships between Dragon, Monkey, Tiger. At this point I think that everybody knows about Monkey king so I'm not going to explain it to you guys, but if you don't know and interested, you can read about it in Wiki if you want, it'll explain you everything and as mater of fact Oda used the story about Monkey King as an inspiration behind one piece.

 

[Seth]

XYZ represents XYZ in XYZ
Me:

This was widely talked about already. This whole tiger dragon pheasant stuff and etc.

ps. Monkey also and all of that stuff.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I like your post and agree with you but when it comes to themes of fights such as "Luffy vs Kaido" it is clear that the theme of that fight is "Monkey King vs Dragon king"

In this video you can see the relationships between Dragon, Monkey, Tiger. At this point I think that everybody knows about Monkey king so I'm not going to explain it to you guys, but if you don't know and interested, you can read about it in Wiki if you want, it'll explain you everything and as mater of fact Oda used the story about Monkey King as an inspiration behind one piece.

Oh, absolutely the Monkey King vs the Dragon King is a much better fit. I see the "Tiger vs Dragon" theme as a much more underlying tone in regards to their personalities and what they both represent in Chinese Mythology.

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XYZ represents XYZ in XYZ
Me:

This was widely talked about already. This whole tiger dragon pheasant stuff and etc.

ps. Monkey also and all of that stuff.

Yeah, people talk about it, but I more so see it being discussed in the literal sense. Just because Zoro is represented as a Tiger as his spirit animal, it doesn't automatically place him thematically in the role of the Tiger in the Mythology of the Tiger vs The Dragon. It's completely different.

 

[HA001]

Lmfao what youve listed as traits for the tiger fits zoro

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Lmfao what youve listed as traits for the tiger fits zoro

Those are not traits of Zoro. He is much more tempered and laid back.

 

[HA001]

Those are not traits of Zoro. He is much more tempered and laid back.

Wild ? Enthusastic ? Driven ? Can be hot blooded. Thats zoro too a tee.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Wild ? Enthusastic ? Driven ? Can be hot blooded. Thats zoro too a tee.

No it isn't. Zoro only acts like that when it comes to fighting, and that's it. That is not who he is at his core as a person. Hot Blooded means you are a person who is quick to show emotion. When does Zoro ever let his emotions dictate his actions outside of fighting? Hell even inside of fighting?

 

[Albino 👑]

If luffy tiger man or some shit it wouldn't surprise me tbh
If he pulls out a new g4 i hope he bases it on red hawk so each one of his attacks is like an explosion on the inside

 

[HA001]

No it isn't. Zoro only acts like that when it comes to fighting, and that's it. That is not who he is at his core as a person. Hot Blooded means you are a person who is quick to show emotion. When does Zoro ever let his emotions dictate his actions outside of fighting? Hell even inside of fighting?

Bruh stfu. You been proven wrong and noe you chatting shit.

Fighting is zoros core.

Wild. Hes been called a beast or a wild animal numerous times.

Driven. Hes driven af to achieve his dream.

Hot blooded hes had aplenty of examples in the manga. I can get so many panels to tick off all those points.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Bruh stfu. You been proven wrong and noe you chatting shit.

Fighting is zoros core.

Wild. Hes been called a beast or a wild animal numerous times.

Driven. Hes driven af to achieve his dream.

Hot blooded hes had aplenty of examples in the manga. I can get so many panels to tick off all those points.

How are you a Zoro fanboy, and you don't even understand his character?

 

[HA001]

How are you a Zoro fanboy, and you don't even understand his character?

Aight chill im busy now. But ill get you plenty of panels to shut you up.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Aight chill im busy now. But ill get you plenty of panels to shut you up.

Go for it. But make sure all those panels include showing Zoro being driven by his emotions, and not his lust for battle. I guarantee you can find way more panels of Zoro being like this. Wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back"

 

[HA001]

Go for it. But make sure all those panels include showing Zoro being driven by his emotions, and not his lust for battle. I guarantee you can find way more panels of Zoro being like this. Wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back"

Is his lust for battle not his emotions ? Lmfao you been bodied now stop.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Is his lust for battle not his emotions ? Lmfao you been bodied now stop.

Um, no.... That's just Zoro's love for fighting. It's not his core personality, of who he is. He doesn't let things like Anger, hatred love, joy etc... dictate his actions. He's much more level headed than that.

 

[Xione]

Those who are represented by the Dragon will usually be wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back". While those who are represented by the Tiger will usually be passionate, driven, enthusiastic, wild, and/or other traits seen as "Hot Blooded".

It is also to be noted that the Tiger and the Dragon are seen to be complete polar opposites, while also at the same time they are similar. As you can see, the Mythology behind the Tiger vs the Dragon is the exact portrayal of Luffy and Kaido.

Passionate - describes Zoro
Enthusiastic - describes Zoro
Wild - describes Zoro
Driven - describes Zoro

"brave, competitive, unpredictable, and confident, Stubborn, Aggressive, Self-ego " are the basic traits of the Tiger, all of which describe Zoro.

"Ambitious, Energetic, Leadership, Arrogant, Relentless, Elusive " are the basic traits of the Dragon, all of which describe Kaido

Dragon/Tiger/Dog share a lot of the same trait, without much differences, dependent on which website you look you might see some bigger differences sometimes there really aren't any.

 

[HA001]

Um, no.... That's just Zoro's love for fighting. It's not his core personality, of who he is. He doesn't let things like Anger, hatred love, joy etc... Drive him.

Thats his core personality. Stop being dumb. Thats like saying ussop who is a coward the opposite and being scared isnt his core personality.


Thats a lie. All those things drive him.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

How are you a Zoro fanboy, and you don't even understand his character?

"I know him the best so I know etc etc"

Arguments ran empy?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Passionate - describes Zoro
Enthusiastic - describes Zoro
Wild - describes Zoro
Driven - describes Zoro

"brave, competitive, unpredictable, and confident, Stubborn, Aggressive, Self-ego " are the basic traits of the Tiger, all of which describe Zoro.

"Ambitious, Energetic, Leadership, Arrogant, Relentless, Elusive " are the basic traits of the Dragon, all of which describe Kaido

Dragon/Tiger/Dog share a lot of the same trait, without much differences, dependent on which website you look you might see some bigger differences sometimes there really aren't any.

I'm not talking about Spirit animals here. This is strictly from the standpoint of the Mythology of the Tiger vs The Dragon.

Wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back", describes Zoro way more than passionate, driven, enthusiastic, wild, and/or other traits seen as "Hot Blooded"

The Tiger's actions is dictated by his emotions. That is 100 percent Luffy. The Dragon is more laid back and approaches situations in more calculating and level head, manner. Which is 100 percent Zoro.

How often does Zoro let his emotions dictate his actions? How often does Luffy fly off at the handle and let his emotions fuel him into charging headstrong into something, while Zoro attempts to calm him down and think about things?

 

[HA001]

I'm not talking about Spirit animals here. This is strictly from the standpoint of the Mythology of the Tiger vs The Dragon.

Wise, tempered, patient, humble, plucky, and/or any other traits usually seen as "laid-back", describes Zoro way more than passionate, driven, enthusiastic, wild, and/or other traits seen as "Hot Blooded"

The Tiger's actions is dictated by his emotions. That is 100 percent Luffy. The Dragon is more laid back and approaches situations in more calculating and level head, manner. Which is 100 percent Zoro.

How often does Zoro let his emotions dictate his actions? How often does Luffy fly off at the handle and let his emotions fuel him into charging headstrong into something, while Zoro attempts to calm him down and think about things?

Lmfao. Like when he went to stop luffy in onigashima and joined in instead.
The tigers points fit zoro way more than the dragons