there is no initial clash BS here base zoro~dragon kaido and lucci~g5 luffy no named attack if you wanna play the initial clash card then zoro is still in that phase since he didnt use a named attack so far.
Then why did G5 outclass Lucci? You should be able to explain this then if they're ~.
You also keep forgetting Lucci hasn't used a single attack either but I guess Lucci doesn't have named attacks going by your logic.
There's no shame in conceding Luffy( who is an emperor btw) is stronger than Zoro tbh,you seem to think it would be the end of the world if you do concede.