[FNZ] Role Madness Naruto: Chunin Exam

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Ultra

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Because both refiller and Amplifier can be confirmed to exist sheerly by using them normally, instead I have to weigh the odds you're mafia vs somehow you both stumbling upon not using a role that could be easily confirmed 80% of the time if either of you played that role usage normally.

It's hard *not* to see working backwards from a position of say, having a janitored role, or something that's possibly in your role sheet but used for another purpose so you can't prove it exists
 
Ultra

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Yo Tan Wa said:
Are you asking for the sake of asking questions now?

I clearly mentioned I had targeted Michelle but you asked why I wasted it on you, and now this, go get some Juice or something.:wellwell:
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I'm asking to understand how a role that should be an easy clear found itself not being used until well after there was any use for it, yes.

lol
 
Ultra

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There's also the problem of Michelle having claimed that she was untargetable on Night 1, so you would have to be confident you weren't throwing your ability to the aether, and in the case Michelle goes "actually I have another jail and I never recieved anything", that could be your back up excuse.

This sounds elaborate, but not less so than assuming you saw multiple power roles claiming early game and at no junction decided to power them up, even though everyone has about 2-3 shots. Logic dictates almost everything would be gone by now, and you're telling me to sit here and believe this was the best you could do.
 
Yo Tan Wa

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Ultra said:
You sure?

Normally when you use these roles as well, it serves better to try and buff the investigations themselves

I think between You, Indigo, and Red Night, I have a hard time reconciling each and every one of you sparsely if at all using actions and only saving these actions to Night 3 or Night 4

Almost unheard of in a role madness game

That's not to say all of you are scum but those who aren't start needing to ask these questions, there's a problem that you and RN have roles that can be VERIFIED and not one of you succeeded in doing so
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🤔

I didn't even think that much about it. Might've considered Flowa if I was confident of reading her town.

My shots are limited, i didn't wanted to waste it using early, unless I had some idea about the game.
I've been easy town read by everyone this game, idk why it's hard for you. Give my posts a go,
 
RippedCal

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Yo Tan Wa said:
Idk how mass claiming supposed to solve, or if it's the right way to play but with my low efforts and that town is losing I'm not complaining. I'll comply if it helps.

Michelle - Town Read. Gara. Town. .

Ultra- playwise, started to feel Townie again. Puppet master.

Indigo- hinted at being Temari early game. Could do that if they had her fake role. The way he said it, there's a chance he can be town.

But I feel as a host I'd place one scum among these 3 Sand members. Maybe

Red night- Thinks he's town.
Action wise doesn't feel Townie. Refilling Flowa that he probably didn't town read, and one who didn't get us a single result through watcher?
Playwise too, doesn't understand where his head is. Playing first time with him, hoping it's just how he is.

Jaguark- Neji. Destroy one shots. Shot Polar and Red Night. The RN shot doesn't make sense form scum end. Polar already tracked they didn't use night action.
Until unless Jag n Polar are scummates, then Polar got his role and Jag destroyed his refill.

Flowa/Always mind- Vote on Ultra just after joining the game when majority voting Indigo/Muugen. Feels like scums got him ready for this. To open wolf?

Flowa quitenss all of sudden, i hope everything well in her IRL life.
For game I don't think as a scum she fails at producing even fake results. She's better than that, and can make anything work lol. So I don't understand if she were scum she'd claim all this🤔.
What got to her dunno. Upset because of night action failings maybe.

Cal- Naruto. Orca cop on him. Together Yeah Town.

Luca- I didn't understand his/ her claim. Claims to be confirmed town. This confidence is admirable, I'll observe them.

Yo- 🙈

Yo ho- Hinata. I fail to believe her role would still be locked at this point. But scummates wouldn't let her claim that either. 😂
Maybe town.

Polar Bear- tracking results on me were correct.
Hasn't posted this day phase though, is he silenced?
Playwise feels to be missing for a while now.

Will edit update it in morning.
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this isn't very good lol

are you just reading everyone town?
 
Yo Tan Wa

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Ultra said:
Because both refiller and Amplifier can be confirmed to exist sheerly by using them normally, instead I have to weigh the odds you're mafia vs somehow you both stumbling upon not using a role that could be easily confirmed 80% of the time if either of you played that role usage normally.

It's hard *not* to see working backwards from a position of say, having a janitored role, or something that's possibly in your role sheet but used for another purpose so you can't prove it exists
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I don't think of using my role for confirmations, that my play is.

At the start of the game i also didn't thought all roles will have limited shots. I figured Ino is weak, so yeah.

Also Polar tracker result confirms what I say, the flipped scum have lots of actions. Surely I'd done something by now if I were. Now quit complaining do what you did mass claims for, game is not over yet.
 
Ultra

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Anyone who is considering lynching me needs to have a convincing answer for the following:

A) How did Red Knight fuck up so badly he didn't manage to refill on a single person successfully (pending AM confirming if he was in fact refilled)
B) How did Yo Ton fuck up so badly he didn't manage to empower a single person successfully
c) How can a town refiller not only exist along all the other given claims but also did not attempt to redirect anything

If you can't come up with a plausible answer for like 2 of these lol
 
Ultra

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Yo Tan Wa said:
I don't think of using my role for confirmations, that my play is.

At the start of the game i also didn't thought all roles will have limited shots. I figured Ino is weak, so yeah.

Also Polar tracker result confirms what I say, the flipped scum have lots of actions. Surely I'd done something by now if I were. Now quit complaining do what you did mass claims for, game is not over yet.
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We had multiple claims that should have informed you of that standard, from Day 1. Two of which were investigated and at risk of being screwed with.

We proceeded to have several more claims on Day 2

It's not just that you didn't play to confirm your role, it's that I think if you put any person in your role I imagine someone confirms they are amped about 80% of the time simply by using the role like a normal person.

Even *if* you had assumed roles are not limited usage, they die, so that also presents a pressure to boost them.

So by backwards induction I find it a bit suspect
 
Yoho

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Ultra said:
Anyone who is considering lynching me needs to have a convincing answer for the following:

A) How did Red Knight fuck up so badly he didn't manage to refill on a single person successfully (pending AM confirming if he was in fact refilled)
B) How did Yo Ton fuck up so badly he didn't manage to empower a single person successfully
c) How can a town refiller not only exist along all the other given claims but also did not attempt to redirect anything

If you can't come up with a plausible answer for like 2 of these lol
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A and B has the same answer if they are town then they aren't informed who else is town nor who is scum so they're going of their hunch and using actions on people they either trust or don't trust depending on the action used, can't really control of that action works or not especially if it's dependent on what the other person does

C. Idk what a town filler Is or what it does
 
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