And so is Rin, have you watched Fate in any capacity?
Indeed I have, I’m not arguing Rin in turn would let her guard down against Misaka like it was being argued right now in reverse. Rin’s more ruthless sure, but Misaka is more than cautious in a fight and will use lethal force when the opponent proves it’s needed. So arguing state of mind or willingness to kill are pointless with two combatants that efficiently use their abilities to their fullest.
The only reason she lets Shinji and Shirou go often is because the former is her sister's brother and the latter is someone she has a crush on.
Yup, good thing too for whatever much more karmic fate Shinji faces depending on the route
And Rin has reacted to Artoria's movements, Heracles' movements, Kotomine's and otherwise so no, blitzing her is not happening because you tell me so.
Latter two in the same ballpark as Saints if not less so. Comparing Kotomine to the likes of Brunhild or Kanzaki is a literal hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Her moving as fast as Artoria in UBW against Caster:
There's also the 2nd Bad End in UBW where she actually outpaces Heracles and and shields Shirou using her body against him(The video for that is missing but that is a genuine Bad End).
There's also her dodging Cu's attacks(While Cu wasn't going all out, he still was aiming to kill as that is how he acts) in the Prologue:
Misaka controlling her powers in time to stop Brunhild’s blitz:
“From the perspective of one’s bodily senses, Brunhild seemed to just disappear. And since she was moving faster than sound, one could never react in time based on sound.
Brunhild Eiktobel charged up to a point right in front of Mikoto and vigorously swung up the claymore hanging down from one hand.
She also twisted her wrist to lay the giant sword down flat as she swung it.
Normally, this may have been an attempt to not hit one’s opponent with the blade of the sword. However, the situation here was different. Brunhild Eiktobel could move at supersonic speeds and the claymore she held was like a giant sword made by attaching a grip to a metal sheet.
By laying the blade flat, she could use it like a giant fan made of steel.
An overwhelmingly violent fan that used the massive shockwave created when an object moved at supersonic speeds.
That would end it.
Not only would it crush the girl’s fat and muscles from the outside, but her eardrums, lungs, and trachea would rupture from within.
However…
“Damn you!!”
“!?”
She reacted just before it hit.
A dull noise came from below their feet. The ground below moved. The road at the top of the overpass was made in blocks that included the supports below. The girl controlled one entire block with magnetism to tilt it like a seesaw.
This caused Brunhild’s aim to be off with her claymore strike and the sonic boom flew off into the distance. All the glass in one of the buildings alongside the road was smashed to pieces.”
And don't bother with the downplay attempts for the latter, I can easily use simple means to scale Rin to MHS+ that also exists in F/SN and the other Human Characters and Servants that match and exceed that.
Misaka without even going into scaling and just her own feats is Relativistic to FTL
I don't really care about the former since that's ultimately nothing(The hell is Non-Speed? She can move at infinite speed now? Ha). The latter can easily be taken as to her own fine tuning of her abilities to predict Mugino's Electron Beams(Since if you can manipulate Electricity which means you can manipulate Electrons, what type of person are you to not react to when they are created?)
Mispelled. I meant to write no actual confirmed speed where as Meltdowner beams from Mugino’s are actual real life particle / electron beams
We know when Misaka is diverting the beams and when she dodges them. Here is her diverting them where we see the beams actually bend away.
The manga scan shows no change in the beams. And Misaka has no ability to pre-emptively sense the beams ahead of time either. Especially in the manga scan where she dodged 4 beams, each fired in completely random directions as well as point blank and from behind.
Magical Energy can explicitly interfere with the Laws of Physics, Space and even Time if enough of it is even in the area. Magnetism is not affecting the level of Magical Energy Rin used on Heracles and Medea, not one bit.
Citation for Rin ignoring laws of physics space and time and to what effect to argue she can ignore powers, especially those at Misaka’s level.
Again as the above, her dodging Mugino's Electron Beams which would still require manipulating Electrons vs. a person who manipulates Electrons is not the speed feat you think it is,
How?
nor does it help against the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch because you are legit vastly overestimating the size of the beams vs. Mugino's to begin with.
Misaka isn't dodging these easily, especially when again, they are Excalibur-level blasts(Especially in the movie where she explicitly vaped the Grail Mud Sakura tossed at her).
If your arguing Area of Effect now, beams fired from her Jewel Sword are about as wide as the Angel Dragon’s light attack
^ Order of panels, Dragon fires it’s cross shaped beam with Misaka taking action at that timeframe based on her started expression next panel, beam envelopes her, she’s revealed to have magnetically pulled a whole metal sheet in front before the light reached her.
Pulling a magnetic wall towards herself won’t help against the Jewel Sword blasts but she can instead magnetically move herself out of the way at the same speed she moved that metal sheet since moving her body around through magnetism is one of her methods for moving.
Cool, Ishtar can literally chuck a Planet at people and still continue to fight fine after that while being able to fight Gilgamesh and Enkidu, people who would easily scale to Star levels.
Unless you are really going to overplay how strong Gabriel's special attack is, Level 6 Misaka isn't doing anything here at all.
Context, she doesn’t move the actual planet Venus, but the “concept” of one that’s only based on what people could interpret Venus as during the stone ages over the scientific understanding of what a planet is today at that. The actual moon physical Venus that matters is in no way affected.
“Based on such anecdote, Ishtar pulls off a deed that even God fears: upon employing the Noble Phantasm, she warps to Venus and takes possession of its concept by means of management rights, loading it and firing it from the Boat of Heaven’s magazine as a conceptual planet.
While in the middle of her Noble Phantasm, when Ishtar warps to Venus, this is not the Venus in the outer space of the modern era’s, but rather, the Venus in the outer space during the time of the age of mythology. Afterwards, grabbing (the concept of) Venus and loading it onto her bow as a bullet, the Venus Blaster shoots this Venus that had been turned into a bullet towards the Earth (surface), and from another person’s perspective, it casually warps into the modern era’s airspace through the utilization of displacement magecraft. The mountain range that was a nuisance to others, even to the Earth and to Venus, is accordingly destroyed by this Venus.”
Well I can pull up scans of it being stated Kazakiri was the only one present who could actually match Gabriel's power who does have the feat of casually moving and rearranging actual planets and everything else in the Solar System. And in case it’s not clear why Level 6 Misaka compares, she’s fighting Shokuhou Misaki with all of Kazakiri’s powers taken into herself
And plus there's Kimi Shundan who Misaka fought and matched at just Level 5, who created Solar System devouring Black Holes in space that I can scale her too. Heck, the very Angel Dragon Kimi uses that eats those black holes for energy alone couldnt fully stop Level 6 Misaka. It took Touma the Angel Dragon as well as several other Dragons to destroy her power
Damn. I missed this kind of old school nerd debating
