[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece: Water 7/Enies Lobby

[MangoSenpai]

1) Ultra was indeed killed by Worst.
2) Ratchet is actually scum faking SK.

Why is there not an option 3 where Scum has +1 KP?

 

[Polar Bear]

Watson Tracked Ratchet nowhere, I saw Watson on Ratchet.

So no, he did not kill anyone.

Thus back to the question as to where did the 2nd kill come from if it wasn't ratchet or worst

 

[Ratchet]

The idea that I'm Mafia faking SK can be easily dismissed- I was 8/8 in duel votes. At worst, 7/9. My claim doesn't help me survive because it gives you incentive to remove me, my rationale is that I don't want to out up with Flower any more than I have to this game and that there is value in keeping me around. As Mafia, I'd be choosing a Gambit that hurts my chances of survival, not helps them.

 

[Flower]

Might need to bring Melkor back to the table, maybe.

 

[Polar Bear]

Why is there not an option 3 where Scum has +1 KP?

On top of emils extra kill(s)

 

[Flower]

Why is there not an option 3 where Scum has +1 KP?

Because Ekko already flipped 3 X Bleeder.

 

[Ratchet]

You shouldn't rule out multiball. I think it's possible given the naming of the Mafia that flipped - easily could be two teams of 3 plus me.

 

[MangoSenpai]

The idea that I'm Mafia faking SK can be easily dismissed- I was 8/8 in duel votes. At worst, 7/9. My claim doesn't help me survive because it gives you incentive to remove me, my rationale is that I don't want to out up with Flower any more than I have to this game and that there is value in keeping me around. As Mafia, I'd be choosing a Gambit that hurts my chances of survival, not helps them.

The red herring is that you had already claimed cop, so what could you possibly do as a gambit play to get out of your situation?

You'd survive one more cycle if you're scum having effectively delayed a net loss for your team

 

[Worst]

Might need to bring Melkor back to the table, maybe.

@Lord Melkor THIS IT EH POLICE ! Raise your hands and give us an explanation

 

[Polar Bear]

Because Ekko already flipped 3 X Bleeder.

I think we got some liars here or the unclaimed pool has a redirect/busdrive of some kind

 

[Flower]

You shouldn't rule out multiball. I think it's possible given the naming of the Mafia that flipped - easily could be two teams of 3 plus me.

Doesn’t fit the flavour.

 

[Ratchet]

The red herring is that you had already claimed cop, so what could you possibly do as a gambit play to get out of your situation?

You'd survive one more cycle if you're scum having effectively delayed a net loss for your team

My argument is that I wouldn't need to gambit. I would stick to my guns and hope for the best from there.

This is all moot anyway as you'll see with my flip, but I want you to know that I'm telling the truth about my actions. If you're paranoid about WIFOM or whatever then get the flip, but as Mafia I never make a decision that isn't at least calculated.

 

[Ratchet]

Doesn’t fit the flavour.

I wasn't asking nor speaking to you.

 

[Flower]

Kiku‘s RC can stop Serial Kills, then?

 

[Worst]

The idea that I'm Mafia faking SK can be easily dismissed- I was 8/8 in duel votes. At worst, 7/9. My claim doesn't help me survive because it gives you incentive to remove me, my rationale is that I don't want to out up with Flower any more than I have to this game and that there is value in keeping me around. As Mafia, I'd be choosing a Gambit that hurts my chances of survival, not helps them.

You know what ? You're right i'm confident you're the most kawaii SK and won't backstab us

Vote Win Ratchet

Spoiler

if you do it though

 

[MangoSenpai]

My argument is that I wouldn't need to gambit. I would stick to my guns and hope for the best from there.

This is all moot anyway as you'll see with my flip, but I want you to know that I'm telling the truth about my actions. If you're paranoid about WIFOM or whatever then get the flip, but as Mafia I never make a decision that isn't at least calculated.

I would argue a SK fake gambit is calculated, but I digress.

I'll let you live for now, if you're preaching the truth you're not seeing the daylight tomorrow anyway.
So in a way you being alive is indirectly saving me from dying

 

[Flower]

Good we still have time. I‘m not sure who to lynch now .

 

[MangoSenpai]

Kiku‘s RC can stop Serial Kills, then?

Yes, now stop speculating.

I have already solid proof that there's no open-ended thread regarding Ratchet N1

 

[Ratchet]

As for Yoho, I think the idea that Scum wouldn't have a Duelist and a Bleeder is somewhat silly. Again if they're on the small side they might not be able to reliably guarantee extra kills and the duel isn't a gimme either. They're mutually exclusive functions. I do think his duel there was incredibly opportunistic, but I can't rule out the possibility that he doesn't make calculated moves as town. He could simply be an impulsive person. I don't know. But I can see how he would be scum. His defence overall has been okay.

 

[Flower]

Why are my tunnels always on Serial Killers tho .