[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon Chose your own starters

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EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
btw do we have anything proving that blue is indie? if ratchet's scum we might as well consider blue scum even if he's actually an indie

any spare vig shots can go there
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
You put her into your PoE, what's with the .early mouthing if you aren't scum reading her?
I didn't put her in my PoE, I'll quote the relevant bits for you as you're obviously not actually reading:
I wonder if Luka/RippedCal/Psychic/Emil/Juliet can work as a PoE? Thoughts on this?
It's a question. It's not a statement. I'm posting a thought and asking for input on said thought. There is no definitive opinion or assessment being made.
Juliet and Psychic I'm not sure about. Main reason Psychic is there actually is because if her Luka read.
I qualify what my issue is, which you have yet to comment on.
If I had ti slot Psychic/Emil somewhere currently without associations from slots that haven't flipped, I'd say town.
I cannot be any clearer than this Ultra. I really can't. Like just read this back to yourself please.

I don't like her Luka read. And her insistence that she had Gad as town but voted him doesn't make any sense to me. She has never been the kind of player that needs to misrepresent the truth to hide the fact she was wrong.
Again I talk about how she *could* be scum, which you haven't addressed in the slightest.

As for "early mouthing", whatever that is supposed to mean, it's not anything beyond "hey, does this work, can someone check me on this". I could just not post lines of thought and give only the conclusions, but there wouldn't be much to discuss from it. I don't have Psychic hard town like you. I gave my reasons why. I can see how she can be town and she wouldn't be top of my PoE. If Luka is scum I'd need her to elaborate on her read and the thought process behind it. All of this I think is perfectly within reason. All of this you should be able to get from my posts without me having to make this post quoting things I've just said. Can you please read my posts Ultra.
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
not very easy for me to solidify a world rn because there was no n1 kill. will hold my thoughts on the PoE to myself

id say yall need to not post as much in order to give the inactives a chance to post more and become more readable
 
not very easy for me to solidify a world rn because there was no n1 kill. will hold my thoughts on the PoE to myself

id say yall need to not post as much in order to give the inactives a chance to post more and become more readable
This won‘t work. People just aren’t posting. Nothing we can really do about it.
 
I didn't put her in my PoE, I'll quote the relevant bits for you as you're obviously not actually reading:

It's a question. It's not a statement. I'm posting a thought and asking for input on said thought. There is no definitive opinion or assessment being made.

I qualify what my issue is, which you have yet to comment on.

I cannot be any clearer than this Ultra. I really can't. Like just read this back to yourself please.


Again I talk about how she *could* be scum, which you haven't addressed in the slightest.

As for "early mouthing", whatever that is supposed to mean, it's not anything beyond "hey, does this work, can someone check me on this". I could just not post lines of thought and give only the conclusions, but there wouldn't be much to discuss from it. I don't have Psychic hard town like you. I gave my reasons why. I can see how she can be town and she wouldn't be top of my PoE. If Luka is scum I'd need her to elaborate on her read and the thought process behind it. All of this I think is perfectly within reason. All of this you should be able to get from my posts without me having to make this post quoting things I've just said. Can you please read my posts Ultra.
Meant to say mealy mouthing

I know what you did Ratchet, you posed a rhetorical question based on the presumption that she's an option.

The degree you're scum reading her doesn't do anything for me because you shouldn't be scum reading her at all. She's as innocent as a baby bird. That's the freest town read ever. How many potential scum did you exclude to put her name on a short list?
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
Meant to say mealy mouthing

I know what you did Ratchet, you posed a rhetorical question based on the presumption that she's an option.

The degree you're scum reading her doesn't do anything for me because you shouldn't be scum reading her at all. She's as innocent as a baby bird. That's the freest town read ever. How many potential scum did you exclude to put her name on a short list?
hes probs gauging interest / seeing if any1 will bite into that poe to know who to keep alive to aid him into pushing it later i suppose
 
btw do we have anything proving that blue is indie? if ratchet's scum we might as well consider blue scum even if he's actually an indie

any spare vig shots can go there
continue not reading the thread. compared to players who already claimed and are involved and you want shot.

like any vig reading this, should aim at emil. for this bs.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Meant to say mealy mouthing

I know what you did Ratchet, you posed a rhetorical question based on the presumption that she's an option.

The degree you're scum reading her doesn't do anything for me because you shouldn't be scum reading her at all. She's as innocent as a baby bird. That's the freest town read ever. How many potential scum did you exclude to put her name on a short list?
I don't think you do understand what I did, Ultra. In fact, I would go further and say at this junction, you are no longer attempting to read me. You are looking to fit me into a mould of being scum, because you've already decided that I'm scum, and so everything I do you're going to confirmation bias yourself into reading scum motivation from.

For starters, like I just told you - I don't town read her to the degree that you do. Perhaps I hold her scum games in slightly higher respect than you, or perhaps I'm just not as good at these sorts of reads. What I do know is that I have Luka scum, and Psychic has repeatedly defended Luka on very weak basis. Moreover, I see her attempting to distance herself from the Gad lynch and even claim he was one if her top town reads - despite her having voted him. These are two elements that I feel need to be considered, which is what has took me from strongly town reading her, which I should point out to you, I was doing since Day 1, and weakly town reading her instead. With one exception - if Luka is in fact scum, she requires further scrutiny.

And now secondly, what you claim to be a shortlist is not, in fact, a shortlist. It's a question. A line of thought from which to open dialogue. I di this very often actually - I put my thoughts that are closer to freeform than solidly based to the thread, and ask for input on it. For example, maybe I'm reading too much into her Luka read? If so, someone would, ideally, reign me back in there, and I can drop the thought and move on. Maybe I've missed a post that disqualifies some of the association that I'm building. Or maybe someone has another connection that can bolster an element of what I out forth. The purpose is simply to discuss.

It's not "my" PoE. I have never said it was my PoE. I haven't even implied that it was my PoE. So to answer your question, lots of potential scum. I can post a list now, take off my strong town reads, and let you take your pick from the rest. I have been very clear as to how that lost came to be, the permutations involved within it, and I even pointed out that, absent from said thought I proffered, I would have them town - so none of what you're attempting to characterise this as really stands up to reason.

I would go further. Your identified motivation for me on this would be to widen the PoE. Have you *really* given that angle much thought, though? Or are you chomping at the bit instead of thinking it through? I think the latter, because as scum, there is no pressure at all in widening a PoE that has half the game in as is. Very few are hard cleared by Polar Bear's flip, even less if the game features multiple scum factions. There is no pressure at all to risk going for slots that are dangerous to suspect, like Psychic is, as opposed to throwing in some generic answer in there. Now does this mean I should be locked town? Of course not. It does however mean that the argument that my post can only come from scum motivation, which you earlier came up with, isn't really true - indeed if one were to apply Occam's Razor, they'd find such a position would likely come from Town.

Again, you need to actually read Ultra. If you don't understand something first time, then ask, or read it again. I'm happy to explain pretty much every post or position I make, given the opportunity to do so. Your ability to correctly parse the information from said reasoning is, unfortunately for the town at large, up to you, not me.
 
I don't think you do understand what I did, Ultra. In fact, I would go further and say at this junction, you are no longer attempting to read me. You are looking to fit me into a mould of being scum, because you've already decided that I'm scum, and so everything I do you're going to confirmation bias yourself into reading scum motivation from.

For starters, like I just told you - I don't town read her to the degree that you do. Perhaps I hold her scum games in slightly higher respect than you, or perhaps I'm just not as good at these sorts of reads. What I do know is that I have Luka scum, and Psychic has repeatedly defended Luka on very weak basis. Moreover, I see her attempting to distance herself from the Gad lynch and even claim he was one if her top town reads - despite her having voted him. These are two elements that I feel need to be considered, which is what has took me from strongly town reading her, which I should point out to you, I was doing since Day 1, and weakly town reading her instead. With one exception - if Luka is in fact scum, she requires further scrutiny.

And now secondly, what you claim to be a shortlist is not, in fact, a shortlist. It's a question. A line of thought from which to open dialogue. I di this very often actually - I put my thoughts that are closer to freeform than solidly based to the thread, and ask for input on it. For example, maybe I'm reading too much into her Luka read? If so, someone would, ideally, reign me back in there, and I can drop the thought and move on. Maybe I've missed a post that disqualifies some of the association that I'm building. Or maybe someone has another connection that can bolster an element of what I out forth. The purpose is simply to discuss.

It's not "my" PoE. I have never said it was my PoE. I haven't even implied that it was my PoE. So to answer your question, lots of potential scum. I can post a list now, take off my strong town reads, and let you take your pick from the rest. I have been very clear as to how that lost came to be, the permutations involved within it, and I even pointed out that, absent from said thought I proffered, I would have them town - so none of what you're attempting to characterise this as really stands up to reason.

I would go further. Your identified motivation for me on this would be to widen the PoE. Have you *really* given that angle much thought, though? Or are you chomping at the bit instead of thinking it through? I think the latter, because as scum, there is no pressure at all in widening a PoE that has half the game in as is. Very few are hard cleared by Polar Bear's flip, even less if the game features multiple scum factions. There is no pressure at all to risk going for slots that are dangerous to suspect, like Psychic is, as opposed to throwing in some generic answer in there. Now does this mean I should be locked town? Of course not. It does however mean that the argument that my post can only come from scum motivation, which you earlier came up with, isn't really true - indeed if one were to apply Occam's Razor, they'd find such a position would likely come from Town.

Again, you need to actually read Ultra. If you don't understand something first time, then ask, or read it again. I'm happy to explain pretty much every post or position I make, given the opportunity to do so. Your ability to correctly parse the information from said reasoning is, unfortunately for the town at large, up to you, not me.
Simple question - do you find Psychic obvious town, and if not why?

Because I'd prolly bet my left but she's town, and I don't think my read on her is particularly better than yours is. So yeah that's a legitimate grievance of mine, reading or no reading
 
I don't think hindsight hero'ing is really something you can hold against her as scum without demonstrating this is consistent by the way, she's brazenly confident and obnoxious about her own reads which are both town tells for her
 
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