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Lol what does him having to be a emperor have to do with the scar when shanks and mihawk had legendary duels prior to the scar? Shanks himself hypes up the scar that its not fom mihawk or anyone else its from bb and he was on guard.

how in the heck do you know imu is not a devil fruit specialist? You give him the benefit of the doubt of having coc because of his age but because we have not seen basic coc or low coc from bb its a done deal??? Make it make sense. Imu goal was the world if you are gonna give him coc because of that then you have to look at bb in the same vein. His goals and aspirations are at the top of the world...like luffy and pk ...like zoro and wss....like mihawk who achieved his goal of wss.

I don't see kaido being wrong what so ever...haki does indeed transcend all roger and wb were equals his fruit pushed him above roger for me as the wsm and with the ability to destroy the world. This is no different than Luffy he does not beat kaido with out adv coc nor does he beat kaido without ryou which was cleary shown as kaido df would have melted luffy hand without it. Coc haki grows as the user gets stronger rayleigh tells us this and to me at least luffy awakening is him growing stronger therefore his coc haki grows as a result luffy does not beat kaido without gear 5th as well because it buffed his coc haki.. It just seems crazy as well that with all the haki hype we get u think luffy fight vs bb that he won't be clashing using adc coc with his attacks as well.
Haki doesn’t transcend all lmao. Haki is a mere weapon that can be overcome by other weapons. Gear 5 didn’t buff Luffys haki??? It gave him a stronger body, that’s it.

You seem to think Shanks was a top tier 12 years ago based off nothing…
 
- Title of the chapter is "The fullbringer"
- Nasujuro commands the seraphim to attack the Iron Giant
- S-Hawk uses a new attack called eruptive blade
- Sanji melts Mars wing, Mars regrows his wing and cuts Sanji's leg off
- Zoro cuts the iron giant in half and grabs the den den mushi, he says the message shall continue, he stops all 4 seraphims at once.
- Bonney commands S-Bear to her command, he helps Zoro
- Iron Giant fights using both halves of his body
- Zoro cuts Nasujuro's head but his horse head regrows and and bites Zoro's sword
- The Iron Giant wrestles Warcury like Franky in an epic double spread
- Break next week
 
Haki doesn’t transcend all lmao. Haki is a mere weapon that can be overcome by other weapons. Gear 5 didn’t buff Luffys haki??? It gave him a stronger body, that’s it.

You seem to think Shanks was a top tier 12 years ago based off nothing…
Yes gear 5 did buff luffy Coc haki. How are you disagreeing with what oda put in the story for us to read clear as day?

Chapter 597 rayleigh tells us: This is the power to overwhelm---The color of the supreme king! Most people who've made a name for themselves in this world possess this power. Though you can control the color of the supreme king, you can't train it to be stronger directly. It is the embodiment of the spirit of the user the only way to make is stronger is for the user to grow stronger!

Look at the gear 5th awakening moment in 1044 his coc haki trails are everywhere how can you see that and say that gear 5th didn't make luffys (Spirit) or coc haki grow to insane levels?

Simple question did luffy awakening make him stronger? Answer Yes noboy would disagree with this ,and therefore his coc haki grew stronger as a result.What can you show me in the manga that disproves this? luffy awakening did make his coc grow even further because he in fact grew stronger.
 
Yes gear 5 did buff luffy Coc haki. How are you disagreeing with what oda put in the story for us to read clear as day?

Chapter 597 rayleigh tells us: This is the power to overwhelm---The color of the supreme king! Most people who've made a name for themselves in this world possess this power. Though you can control the color of the supreme king, you can't train it to be stronger directly. It is the embodiment of the spirit of the user the only way to make is stronger is for the user to grow stronger!

Look at the gear 5th awakening moment in 1044 his coc haki trails are everywhere how can you see that and say that gear 5th didn't make luffys (Spirit) or coc haki grow to insane levels?

Simple question did luffy awakening make him stronger? Answer Yes noboy would disagree with this ,and therefore his coc haki grew stronger as a result.What can you show me in the manga that disproves this? luffy awakening did make his coc grow even further because he in fact grew stronger.
Luffys haki didn’t suddenly get stronger? Where is that stated. That’s literally the same haki trails we saw on Dressrosa that flew everywhere.

Simple question, does Shanks holding Gryphon make his haki stronger?
 
Luffys haki didn’t suddenly get stronger? Where is that stated. That’s literally the same haki trails we saw on Dressrosa that flew everywhere.

Simple question, does Shanks holding Gryphon make his haki stronger?
You have to put the two together man its already established that the only way for coc haki to get stronger is for the user to get stronger. Yes when we were in dressrosa and saw haki clashes they were everywhere...but luffy himself is doing those level of trails all by himself right after his gear 5th awakening that's the difference between the two. Oda also has luffy say this is my peak... at luffys peak we can see that he can emit massive coc haki trails by himself how anyone can read rayleigh statement and dismiss the connection between luffy coc haki growing stronger because his awakening is beyond me...you can not train coc haki the only way for it to grow stronger is for the user to grow stronger and awakening made luffy stonger did it not???

Simple question, does Shanks holding Gryphon make his haki stronger? No the embodiment of shanks spirit does not change if he is holding a sword or not holding a sword. His Coc haki does not get weaker nor does it get stronger if he is not swinging a sword. I would also argue since he has one of the 12 supreme grade blades its also a non factor in his spirit needing to grow as we saw what trials enma put zoro through as one of the 21 great grade blades. Zoro for instance holding gryphon should necessitate growth from him with his spirit as it seems a very strong spirit is needed to wield one of the 12 supreme like enma he would need to bend gryphon will to his own thus necessitating growth in his spirit. What would change for shanks is the nuances of what he can do (with a sword he can cut or not cut) with his fist he is a brawler like luffy.

Luffy is different though, him awakening his fruit made him stronger. Per kaido his mind and body finally caught up to his powers...this in turn makes rayleigh statement reign true for luffy his awakening made him stronger therefore his coc haki grew as a side effect. Or at least thats how i see it lol
 

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Imagine a Germany where the WorstGen forum is in charge. Here’s how this anime-crazed government shakes things up:
  1. Agendas and Power Scaling: National policies are based on power scaling debates. Forget about healthcare reform or climate change; the real debate is whether Goku or Saitama can solo the German parliament. Cabinet meetings are endless arguments about which anime character is the most OP.
  2. Spoiler Fiends in Control: Government announcements come with spoilers. Want to know next year’s tax rate? It’s leaked along with the latest "One Piece" chapter spoilers. National addresses start with "Spoiler Alert!" and end with cliffhangers, leaving citizens more confused than ever.
  3. Trolls and Toxicity: Political debates are a troll’s paradise. Civil discourse? What’s that? It’s all sarcastic comments, dank memes, and vicious personal attacks. Policies are shaped by who can troll the hardest without getting banned, making parliamentary sessions look like a chaotic forum thread.
  4. Cosplay Cabinet Meetings: Every government official shows up in cosplay. Picture the Chancellor as Naruto, shouting "Dattebayo!" with every new law. The finance minister channels Light Yagami, writing budget cuts in a Death Note. Foreign policy discussions are cosplay competitions with dramatic monologues.
  5. Economic Strategy: Merch Madness: The economy revolves around anime merchandise. Germany’s main exports? Anime figures, body pillows, and limited-edition Blu-rays. The finance minister, in full Scrooge McDuck mode, dives into vaults of anime collectibles, and the GDP is measured in manga sales.
  6. Education Overhaul: Schools teach "Advanced Trolling Techniques" and "Spoiler Management 101." Power scaling is a core subject, and students argue passionately over which anime characters deserve S-tier status. Graduation requires delivering a flawless troll post and surviving a spoiler-laden exam.
  7. Shonen Defense Force: The military is rebranded as the Shonen Defense Force. Training involves intense shonen-style workouts, and soldiers are ranked by their power levels. Battles are fought with epic anime moves, and the national defense strategy is one giant tournament arc.
  8. Less Concern over WW3, More Over Sanji vs. Zoro: International concerns take a backseat. Who cares about WW3 when the real issue is whether Sanji or Zoro is stronger? National debates focus on Sanji vs. Zoro, Yonko vs. Admirals, and other pressing anime rivalries. The fate of the nation rests on who can argue their favorite character’s power level more convincingly.
  9. Legal System: Trial by Anime Battle: Court cases are resolved by anime duels. Accused of a crime? Better hope you can outfight your opponent with a dramatic sword fight or giant robot battle. Lawyers specialize in "Shonen Defense Tactics," using emotional monologues about friendship and justice to win cases.
  10. Public Services with a Twist: Public services are anime-themed spectacles. Police cars sport anime decals, and firefighters arrive blasting theme songs. Emergency calls start with "What's your favorite anime?" before dispatching help, and public announcements are made in the style of anime previews.
In this anime-governed Germany, reality is just a backdrop for epic fandom drama. Real-world issues are secondary to endless power scaling debates, spoiler-filled announcements, and trolling contests. Who needs sensible governance when you can argue about whether Yonko could defeat the Admirals and whether Zoro's haki is stronger than Sanji's kicks?


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