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Hakai vs (Nika×Cyborg)


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Why do I not give a shit about the inherited will ?
Cause the cool party of the message was omitted.
“Lastly I have one final message to impart. To those scattered throughout the world who bear the name of D. within you there is… that name… that which was inherited can be called will.”

It’s gotta be about a power passed down.
 
Saturn I’m Lowkey using at the baseline fully honest lmao.
Nah Saturn was the walking aura, pure evil incarnate. He has the coolest human design imo. He also popped a dude’s head off as an entrance.
Saturn had great aura in beginning tho, I agree with that.
From haki that Luffy/Kizaru/Zoro/Lucci noticed, to one shotting marine fodder with stare, to "eye diff" Sanji and Franky.

But what happened afterwards to Saturn is nothing short of shameful tbh. I have seen no other top tier humiliated anywhere close to like how Saturn was, to the point many of us even started wondering if he's top tier.

But yeah agreed. Gandhi is definitely going to be stronger than Mars, Warcury is dependent on odas whim moving forward, but getting used to show the might of the Robot first def hurting
With Gorosei power levels, there are two possibilities IMO based on numbering.

Scenario 1: distance from Earth (more likely scenario since Imu = Earth)
- Venus
- Mars
- Mercury
- Jupiter
- Saturn

Scenario 2: distance from Sun
- Mercury
- Venus
- Mars
- Jupiter
- Saturn

In both scenarios, Venus > Mars. So I think this is basically confirmed.
In scenario 1, Mars > Mercury. I think this may as well be true. Mars definitely has insane aura at least. So......... it can go either way on Mercury being above Mars, depending on which numbering Oda chooses

If we look at other portrayals such as who stands in middle panels, that is Mercury and Venus IIRC.
Venus is standaout in other ways, in that he is the only sword user while others have guns.

Mars is 3rd after this chapter
??

Mars had 4 characters do combo just to push him away.

What did others do that put their aura above Mars?
 
Cause the cool party of the message was omitted.
“Lastly I have one final message to impart. To those scattered throughout the world who bear the name of D. within you there is… that name… that which was inherited can be called will.”

It’s gotta be about a power passed down.
Joyboy pass his haki to Luffy
thats why Kaido cant recognize his haki after the g5 awakening
 
Saturn had great aura in beginning tho, I agree with that.
From haki that Luffy/Kizaru/Zoro/Lucci noticed, to one shotting marine fodder with stare, to "eye diff" Sanji and Franky.

But what happened afterwards to Saturn is nothing short of shameful tbh. I have seen no other top tier humiliated anywhere close to like how Saturn was, to the point many of us even started wondering if he's top tier.



With Gorosei power levels, there are two possibilities IMO based on numbering.

Scenario 1: distance from Earth (more likely scenario since Imu = Earth)
- Venus
- Mars
- Mercury
- Jupiter
- Saturn

Scenario 2: distance from Sun
- Mercury
- Venus
- Mars
- Jupiter
- Saturn

In both scenarios, Venus > Mars. So I think this is basically confirmed.
In scenario 1, Mars > Mercury. I think this may as well be true. Mars definitely has insane aura at least. So......... it can go either way on Mercury being above Mars, depending on which numbering Oda chooses

If we look at other portrayals such as who stands in middle panels, that is Mercury and Venus IIRC.
Venus is standaout in other ways, in that he is the only sword user while others have guns.



??

Mars had 4 characters do combo just to push him away.

What did others do that put their aura above Mars?
Imo it’ll be the distance from earth, Imu feels like a representation of the Earth since he is called the King of the Earth (and possibly the god of it if that fruit exists) while Luffy is the sun. As such the two closest to earth, Venus and Mars will be the two strongest.
 
Because she's one of the Sweet Commanders and strongest of Big Mom's children right after Katakuri, and that Oda could have made her stand out as much as he did with Katakuri and Perospero if he had just wanted it but didn't, nor he did to any of BM's daughters save for Pudding and not in the best way anyway.
See Pudding has a major part to play with being abducted and being able to read ancient texts. Oda could have made Smoothie more important but he didn't and there are already some other top competitors amongst BM's children (as you just mentioned) that are put into the spotlight. So those already take up the attention budget allocated to BM pirates.
 
LOda really goofed by not giving Ben Beckman a more unique weapon unless he retcons him to have a crazy ass devil fruit.

Goofy and his dumbass powers are killing this arc
Goofy/Nika, Vegafraud, the horrible pacing, the pointless exposition and all of those awful reaction panels whose only accomplishment so far were proving that the one rando who got killed on Jaya survived and that Don Krieg and his crew also survived and are probably in league with Blackbeard, which quite frankly I'm sure won't really matter in the long run, and for those who did care about Krieg and Gin coming back, it only helped to ruin Gin's bittersweet departure at the end of the Baratie Arc.
 
Because she's one of the Sweet Commanders and strongest of Big Mom's children right after Katakuri, and that Oda could have made her stand out as much as he did with Katakuri and Perospero if he had just wanted it but didn't, nor he did to any of BM's daughters save for Pudding and not in the best way anyway.
Tbf another Sweet Commander got their cheeks clapped by casual Urouge off screen
Oda doesn't care about them that much it seems
 
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