Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1119 Spoilers Discussion

[ZenZu]

Hashirama died young, which is why he came back as a 30-40 something year old man when he was an Edo Tensei

Cap

 

[Welkin]

Listen brother, Hashirama doesn't have a loss to Kinkaku (and then later 20 fodders) on his record. His death is a complete unknown, he could have died to AIDs.

According to Madara he far surpasses Tsunade in medical ninjutsu so him dying to anything like that is next to impossible

You keep bringing up his loss to Kinkaku but that was considered an ambush not a direct fight

Not that any of this matters Kishimoto completely flipped the powerscaling with the war arc

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I don’t think anyone here thinks I’m downplaying Sanji except you. There is no way Sanji’s strongest attack to date with Bonney in Nika form should do virtually nothing to Luffy. You’re not a Sanji fan if you think that’s ok. lol I don’t like Sanji and I think this is terrible. Also you didn’t answer the question

Why should Sanji be capable of doing major damage to Luffy?

 

[Embers Kaios]

Sanji fans be honest. Do yall think Oda would put Zoro in this situation?

No
Zoro is heavily protected by plot to the point where it’s even written that he can’t even lose. He’s the original saitama before saitama

He is eyecandy for grown men with beards and prepubescent males who believe him to be the epitome of coolness

Speaking of coolness….Zoro is essentially a fsn fic character. He can never look bad, he can never look goofy, he can never be made to struggle, he can only look cool and generate hype at the cost of his character

He has even more plot armor than Luffy who is the MC

Sanji is the underdog here. Sanji is the most hated and downplayed one piece character of all time who isn’t a chosen one being a descendant of literal anchient gods like Luffy and Zoro

Sanji is a normal human with a few mutated mods which barely make a difference in terms of his base human strengths who is constantly poorly handled and made to look a fool out of due to oda just not valuing the charscter to the same extent yet underneath all of that, Sanji is just a regular non special guy able to compete with the top dogs who are literal GODS!!!! And all this without being given any of the advsntsges and benefits

Sanji is the only strawhst with no plot armor

 

[Shiroyru]

Hmm..why was Hiruzen revived as an old man?

Bc Orochimaru can only revive people at the age they died. He can't do whatever "special treatment" that Kabuto did to bring Madara back in his prime with the Rinnegan (even Kishi doesn't know what this special treatment was, he just wanted Madara to come back as strong as possible)

 

[ZenZu]

According to Madara he far surpasses Tsunade in medical ninjutsu so him dying to anything like that is next to impossible

You keep bringing up his loss to Kinkaku but that was considered an ambush not a direct fight

Not that any of this matters Kishimoto completely flipped the powerscaling with the war arc

The flipped scale still has him weaker than Minato and Hashirama? He was above an old Hiruzen.

 

[Akai2]

The raws should arrive somewhere between 1 hour and 10 minutes from now and 1 hour and 30 minutes from now.

We have this shit down to the minute

Spoiler fiends stay winning

 

[DonWick]

Why should Sanji be capable of doing major damage to Luffy?

It doesn’t have to be major it just shouldn’t be nothing.

 

[ZenZu]

Bc Orochimaru can only revive people at the age they died. He can't do whatever "special treatment" that Kabuto did to bring Madara back in his prime with the Rinnegan (even Kishi doesn't know what this special treatment was, he just wanted Madara to come back as strong as possible)

Such bs, Hiruzen is a complete fraud.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No
Zoro is heavily protected by plot to the point where it’s even written that he can’t even lose. He’s the original saitama before saitama

He is eyecandy for grown men with beards and prepubescent males who believe him to be the epitome of coolness

Speaking of coolness….Zoro is essentially a fsn fic character. He can never look bad, he can never look goofy, he can never be made to struggle, he can only look cool and generate hype at the cost of his character

He has even more plot armor than Luffy who is the MC

Sanji is the underdog here. Sanji is the most hated and downplayed one piece character of all time who isn’t a chosen one being a descendant of literal anchient gods like Luffy and Zoro

Sanji is a normal human with a few mutated mods which barely make a difference in terms of his base human strengths who is constantly poorly handled and made to look a fool out of due to oda just not valuing the charscter to the same extent yet underneath all of that, Sanji is just a regular non special guy able to compete with the top dogs who are literal GODS!!!! And all this without being given any of the advsntsges and benefits

Sanji is the only strawhst with no plot armor

Sanji ain’t a normal human

He is a mutant

 

[MonsterZoro]

 

[Shiroyru]

Does Mars have blue flames too?

 

[Welkin]

The flipped scale still has him weaker than Minato and Hashirama? He was above an old Hiruzen.

Obviously he wouldn't be stronger than Hashirama

Tobirama vs Minato is still heavily argued in every Naruto space to this day

 

[DonWick]

No
Zoro is heavily protected by plot to the point where it’s even written that he can’t even lose. He’s the original saitama before saitama

He is eyecandy for grown men with beards and prepubescent males who believe him to be the epitome of coolness

Speaking of coolness….Zoro is essentially a fsn fic character. He can never look bad, he can never look goofy, he can never be made to struggle, he can only look cool and generate hype at the cost of his character

He has even more plot armor than Luffy who is the MC

Sanji is the underdog here. Sanji is the most hated and downplayed one piece character of all time who isn’t a chosen one being a descendant of literal anchient gods like Luffy and Zoro

Sanji is a normal human with a few mutated mods which barely make a difference in terms of his base human strengths who is constantly poorly handled and made to look a fool out of due to oda just not valuing the charscter to the same extent yet underneath all of that, Sanji is just a regular non special guy able to compete with the top dogs who are literal GODS!!!! And all this without being given any of the advsntsges and benefits

Sanji is the only strawhst with no plot armor

Sanji isn’t a normal human and how can you say he can compete with the top dogs after reading this? I appreciate the honesty though. I agree Zoro does have a lot of plot armor and even if he does lose he will look cool doing it.

 

[Shiroyru]

Obviously he wouldn't be stronger than Hashirama

Tobirama vs Minato is still heavily argued in every Naruto space to this day

Tobirama should honestly be > Minato, but Kishi loves his golden boy too much. Minato's Flying Raijin didn't even seem that much better than Tobirama's, and unlike Minato, Tobirama has far more jutsus than just Flying Raijin, Rasengan, and Shadow Clones, on top of Senju DNA

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It doesn’t have to be major it just shouldn’t be nothing.

How much damage do you think Queen can do to Kaido?

His strongest move is his snake attack. At best you could maybe scale it to the move Kid used on the rooftop, but imo it’s arguably weaker as Kid’s power is magnetism, which is a fundamental force of the universe.

 

[vikas]

Blow away as far as possible... Meanwhile sbear and kuma

 

[DonWick]

How much damage do you think Queen can do to Kaido?

His strongest move is his snake attack. At best you could maybe scale it to the move Kid used on the rooftop, but imo it’s arguably weaker as Kid’s power is magnetism, which is a fundamental force of the universe.

I don’t think Queen can damage Kaido at all because Kaido is built different and Queen doesn’t have the haki. Sanji will get washed by Luffy clearly but at this point it looks like fighting back would be pointless lol.

 

[MonsterZoro]

I am just here for the ride now no longer have a side

 

[Julius]

I don’t think anyone here thinks I’m downplaying Sanji except you. There is no way Sanji’s strongest attack to date with Bonney in Nika form should do virtually nothing to Luffy

You have literally created that pattern just now lol

I don’t think anyone here thinks I’m downplaying Sanji except you. There is no way Sanji’s strongest attack to date with Bonney in Nika form should do virtually nothing to Luffy. You’re not a Sanji fan if you think that’s ok. lol I don’t like Sanji and I think this is terrible. Also you didn’t answer the question

You're gonna be one more bozo alongside side a few others comparing Sanji's strongest move (apparently) to a Strong Right without Haki

And when you're "analysing" Sanji's feats, your below average IQ can't interpret context, its like an illiterate child trying to understand quantum physics

Its explained into your face, even prior to raws and translations, that Luffy is transferring, as a balloon in Gear 5 aka the perfect punching bag, all the power of those moves to Mars.

Luffy should be the one being sent flying and taking 100% of that damage, but guess what? He is not, its Mars

If your strongest pirate using the best of his offensive multiple times with his super duper CoC coating can't stop Gear 5 but make him feel a lil bit of pain, why should Sanji, Franky and Bonney, in an appropriate scenario aimed to help Luffy (not to fuckin kill him) be able to do that?

Its simple math tbh, its not that deep.