Have you seen Yugoslavia after death of Tito?
You mean genocides ?

Not a theory. Capitalism can generate more income and more needs which further generates need for technological advancement - Which is why West was technologically more advanced than the eastern block.
It's a theory yeah, I know it works like that. But I mean, if commies had implanted enough freedom, they may have pulled this off


Are you a republican that seeks separation of powers and democracy ? or do you want a king ?
 
You mean genocides ?
Amongst others yes. Tito was only thing that prevented that from happening

if commies had implanted enough freedom, they may have pulled this off
Again, Yugoslavian communism had most freedom you could have asked to the point you could have freely leave the country when you wanted and still failed. Anymore freedom than that and you aint communist anymore

Are you a republican that seeks separation of powers and democracy ? or do you want a king ?
Bring be Enlightenment Monarchy under Frederick the Great
 
Once again, Yugoslavia rejected Stalinism and Maoism, it had its own form of communism and focused relation with neutral countries. It even traded with the west and the east. And it still didn't work
Again, I'm talking about derivative current, not the actual current themself.

Again, communism comes from marxism that is aiming toward a socialist society (a society without class and capital monopole), but there are a LOTS of ways to create said society by following said doctrine.

Oppressive ones are one of those ways.

The problem is that its those oppressive tactics that were used in history. And that's also why I'm not a communist myself. Since I believe that those tactics are too temptative. Communism, to be created as a real political movement, needs a fail safe. And I don't think this exist just yet.

This doesn't stop me from thinking that socialism is the thing we need to aim for. This is not even a debate in fact.


Considering Capitalism advanced the world so much i think it works just fine atm
Technological progress is not a symbol of real progress. Its a simple testimony of our development.

Real progress will come when societies will be freed from inequalities, oppressions and wars.

"Marxism wasn't real communism,we shall have true communism"
Marxism is not communism, its a guidebook to communism. But marxism is real. And not specifically bad per say. Although some think that it is incomplete since it really doesn't take into account the intersectionalities of oppressions.


Stalinism wasn't real communism,we shave shall true communism" "Mao..."
Those were real communist regime. Simply not the best one. Those were the oppressive tactics to attain socialism.

But if you want to play.

Do you want me to talk about how you are closer to a fascist that I am from a communist ?


I'm for free healthcare, free education and other necessities people need to live.
That's a good start.


He does that when his arguments get demolished.
My arguments are never "demolished".

That's why I'm always the last to talk and you are always the first to leave

:kata:

How does this thread always turn into C4N vs the world?!
Not "this" thread. ALL threads.

Its by design. I'm a disruptor. I know exactly what to say to create reactance on most subject.

And since, one my goal is to make people rethink their preconceptions, using reactance to create discussions and control the conversation is the perfect tool.

People ganging up on him here
That's what you think, but its actually the opposite



I just came to see what people were saying about Trump when he was shot and didn't plan to post, but remembered I hadn't been re-educated by @Logiko for a while, so stuck around a bit.
:yodaswag: Take a seat


C4N is lower than that guy with the funny mustache :suresure:
This guy ?



Yup, can't top him. It was the goat

What? The rich guys were the ones that came up with the tech. Industrial revolution allowed for the mass production and distribution of goods and services, which is why we now have wealthy individuals like never before.
No, that would be researchers and intellectual.

With is the flavor of the rich boot your are licking right now ?

Truth is,many of you are just salty there people wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wealthier than you. Its all about envy.:hihihi:
I bet it taste like strawberries
What can I say? I love making myself miserable. :milaugh:Seriously, he doesn't bother me, though. He's the first person in my life to call me a bigot. That's special.
I actually came back on that if you remember correctly

@Logiko after the past few pages of this thread 😂🫡
They are not even understanding that I'm the one having fun here

:milaugh:
 
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