General & Others Egghead rating

[Water1415]

Arc is ending soon

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Could have been one of the greatest.
The final broadcast was extremely underwhelming.
I am tired of silhouettes.
You'll find my threads like 8 months ago about how egghead was great.
It's much worse now. I think it's Decent to Mid.

 

[Fuckthis3]

A 10 for fanservice only

 

[Yoho]

Solid 7.5/10

 

[Date]

7/10

Great parts on lore, the Gorosei and whats happening in the world, but Bonney and the murder plots were boring

 

[MonsterKaido]

Good till now

 

[Monet]

piece of art 10/10

if you hate it then you hate real op

 

[RoronoaZorro]

As a Sanji fan with Sanji bias, Egghead is definitely 10/10.

Otherwise, it's 85 for me (minus 5 because of rushed pacing, minus 10 for bloat info + unnecessary mystery + no answers).

 

[mly90]

Why did you hide the votes

 

[Water1415]

Why did you hide the votes

Forgot to make public

Post automatically merged: Jul 30, 2024

piece of art 10/10

if you hate it then you hate real op

 

[Therefir]

It was mid, the battles were neither interesting nor dynamic, and the “revelations”, if we can even call them that, were disappointing and things we already knew.

But at least the drawing was good? It's better than what I remember.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

It was mid, the battles were neither interesting nor dynamic, and the “revelations”, if we can even call them that, were disappointing and things we already knew.

But at least the drawing was good? It's better than what I remember.

Even worse, not only disappointing, the "revelations" only brings more questions than answer. Oda didn't try to decrease/answer the mysteries this late in the game, but creates more of them.

 

[Rej]

A bait thread for super retarded one piece readers ngl.

It will be the same as always: at the beginning of an arc people are like "damn this is goated, probaly the best arc so far" and at the end of the arc people are bashing the arc because their headcanon shit didnt go as they wished.

Fucking retards, rinse and repeat ocd robots. Please stop reading one piece and disappear for good, you aren't critical or anything and your stupid opinion has no weight and doesn't matter. Bunch of spiteful bozos.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

between mid to trash

 

[Terminall]

Almost as good as the first half of Wano

 

[Rej]

Decent bait.

What do you think of Egghead though?

I think the 100s of chapters of Vegapunk teasing were worth it. From the introduction up to the end he was a very exciting character that I learned to love alot, including the satellites ofc. Is he perfect? I think no, but for me it did not break the enjoyment I had so far.

Lorewise I expected more but it is what it is, Oda slows down with huge reveals as he has the right moments planned for them in future. Nothing new since pre-timeskip. It means just more One Piece greatness in future.

So about some controversial things:
Oda skipped the middle section of the arc abd I think this was an experimental choice that leaves some questions but overall it somehow works for the arc so let me explain:
We see offpaneling alot in the story, especially if it is about worldbuildinh or other characters. How Sabo made it to the Reverie? Noone cares atp.
How did Perona made it to Beehive? Noone cares atp. Oda knows that his fans have a vivid imagination, so he leaves many things to the fans interpretation whenever he can or thinks it might make sense. I think he tried to do this same thing with the strawhats anf co on Egghead but just on a larger scale. He shifted the mainfocus to Beehive for a moment and treated Egghead like any other worldbuilding event in recent history with offpanel movement. I am allowing him this stylistic choice as barely anything got lost in the process and it allowed Oda to reshuffle the chessboard.

Ofc I wish for him to use this method very carefully and I hope it was a onetimer.


Finally about fights: I think for a 60 chapter arc, I'd like it to compare with WCI.
WCI for me was just more successful with a straight battle. Egghead wasn't designed for people that love duels, it was rather designed for people that like quick and chatoic actions and some kinda shuffeling. In retrospect it was aight, it fit the arc.

Last but not least the philosophy in this arc was topnotch. Oda's best piece so far. I still think that Oda has more in store for us.

Characters: 9.5
Worldbuilding: 8.5
Fights: 7.5
Philosophy: 9.5
Stylistic Choices: 6.5

I think the arc carries what One Piece means very well and successful. If people hate it they really hate for the sake of hating. Criticism is welcome for sure.

For me its the best arc alongside WCI, Marineford and maybe smaller arcs like Drum Island/Alabasta.

 

[moreha9685]

I think the 100s of chapters of Vegapunk teasing were worth it. From the introduction up to the end he was a very exciting character that I learned to love alot, including the satellites ofc. Is he perfect? I think no, but for me it did not break the enjoyment I had so far.

Lorewise I expected more but it is what it is, Oda slows down with huge reveals as he has the right moments planned for them in future. Nothing new since pre-timeskip. It means just more One Piece greatness in future.

So about some controversial things:
Oda skipped the middle section of the arc abd I think this was an experimental choice that leaves some questions but overall it somehow works for the arc so let me explain:
We see offpaneling alot in the story, especially if it is about worldbuildinh or other characters. How Sabo made it to the Reverie? Noone cares atp.
How did Perona made it to Beehive? Noone cares atp. Oda knows that his fans have a vivid imagination, so he leaves many things to the fans interpretation whenever he can or thinks it might make sense. I think he tried to do this same thing with the strawhats anf co on Egghead but just on a larger scale. He shifted the mainfocus to Beehive for a moment and treated Egghead like any other worldbuilding event in recent history with offpanel movement. I am allowing him this stylistic choice as barely anything got lost in the process and it allowed Oda to reshuffle the chessboard.

Ofc I wish for him to use this method very carefully and I hope it was a onetimer.


Finally about fights: I think for a 60 chapter arc, I'd like it to compare with WCI.
WCI for me was just more successful with a straight battle. Egghead wasn't designed for people that love duels, it was rather designed for people that like quick and chatoic actions and some kinda shuffeling. In retrospect it was aight, it fit the arc.

Last but not least the philosophy in this arc was topnotch. Oda's best piece so far. I still think that Oda has more in store for us.

Characters: 9.5
Worldbuilding: 8.5
Fights: 7.5
Philosophy: 9.5
Stilistic Choices: 6.5

I think the arc carries what One Piece means very well and successful. If people hate it they really hate for the sake of hating. Criticism is welcome for sure.

For me its the best arc alongside WCI, Marineford and maybe smaller arcs like Drum Island/Alabasta.

That's a bruh and a half

 

[kekaro]

Mid - decent

Suffers from gorosei neutralizing themself by summing 4 more and oda dragging on towards the end like every Post-ts arc

I recently reread the other post-ts arcs, egghead is 2 or third place after WCI

The most coherent arc theming-wise tho. Every character and plot element felt like it contributed to themes of humanity, Transcendence , Romanticism and very deliberate added on. Meanwhile the outside chapters dealt in support with the human spirit even highlighting it with buggy

This arc from almost the first chapter to the finish had a consistent theme of what science cant do or people defying him especially

 

[Rej]

All right, I'll give a relatively long, autistic response, because your second-to-last paragraph irks me and, I have free time to write a shit rant (some of this is not directed at your response, but just a general response to rating Egghead for this thread):

Honestly, I don’t really know how to respond to this. Criticism is welcome, but if you don’t like the arc overall, “you’re just hating for the sake of hating”? I thought you were being facetious with your original comment, but I guess not? I really dislike this point of view, especially since you yourself can’t even really articulate why you think it’s some of Oda’s best work so far aside from empty platitudes like, “it’s good,” or “it’s exciting,” or, “it fit the arc.” I see this type of rhetoric so often. I get that you probably didn’t put much effort into your response, but come on.

I don’t really get what you mean by, “the philosophy”. What philosophical questions or problems were tackled in Egghead? We had one satellite basically say, “I just want to do the science because it good”, and Stella waved away all responsbility in his broadcast by pretending not to know about the atrocities committed by the World Government (like what happened to Ohara). We got no exploration of how he feels about creating the Mother Flame, which directly enables the WG to eradicate almost all life on the planet, nothing about what it takes to provide him with the resources he needs, nothing about the negative implications of a global information network, or artificially manipulating the climate, or splitting yourself up into clones, nothing about what it means to be a clone in the first place, or to give sentience to inanimate objects, and so much more. I’m genuinely trying to think of anything that Oda was attempting to explore, and I can’t think of one thing. (Though, I’m not assuming that I haven’t missed something, that’s entirely possible.)

Lore-wise we basically got nothing but crumbs once again. Devil fruits are just “desire manifested” - that doesn’t explain anything. We still don’t know how objects are fed devil fruits. The will of D. explanation in the broadcast gets cut off by coincidence. The world is sinking, but we don’t know why it needs to. The ancient weapons exist, but we don’t know why. Joy Boy wanted to do something, but we don’t know what. One side is probably good, the other probably not, but we don't know which one. (I have a wild guess it's not the one where the people call humans, "insects", but who knows.) Why does the sea hate Devil Fruit users? Why can't you use multiple at the same time? How can they respawn if the user dies? Why can't you extract Logia fruits? What is "awakening"? etc.

Worldbuilding-wise, this arc is obviously trying to set up the finale of the story. We see the major players in the last chapter, in a cool double-spread. Okay great, so who are these major players? We know nothing about the motivation of more than half of them, nor what their plans are given the knowledge that “the One Piece really needs to be gotten soon now.” Shanks, we don’t know what his motivations are. Imu, we don’t know what they look like, what/why/how they want to do whatever they want to do. Akainu, we don’t know his motivations. Blackbeard, we still don’t know what is “weird about his body”, or what his motivations are besides “I want to rule the world”. Buggy, we don’t know how he intends to do anything because Mihawk and Crocodile have no intention of getting the One Piece at this point. Aokiji, we don’t know his end goal and his true allegiences. Garling, we know nothing besides that he is just evil. Silhouette-guy is just there.

It's still a mystery why characters like Garp, Aokiji, Kizaru, etc. or people lower on the ranks like Vice Admirals or regular marines would ever want to help the Celestial Dragons, when they're supposed to be the 'good' side in the One Piece world. Garp literally ignored a human hunting game on God Valley just to have a fist fight with Roger. Saturn says horrendous things about his view on the human race to Vice Admiral Dobermann - I think that's his name - and all we get is an exclamation and question mark as a response from him. But whatever, serve the slavers; just don't think about it.

I just ask, is it really acceptable that after 1,121 chapters we are at a point where we don’t understand over half of the major characters in the story? Do you really think it’s strange that people are at a point of exhaustion, where they just want answers, after so many years of not getting them? If Oda leaves so much up to the reader’s interpretation, is it really strange they get disappointed when their “headcanon” doesn’t come true, or gets actively contradicted despite earlier implications?

I mean I guess I could just be retarded, I don’t know. There's so much to talk about that's wrong in Egghead though, this is barely scratching the surface.

(Just want to add: it's fun to "hate" on stories, and think about why certain things don't work in storytelling. That doesn't mean you hate the entirety of the story, if anything it means you've become invested in it because it used to be/is good to begin with.)

You ask too many questions, it shows impatience.

My reply was ultra halfassed since this is not rly a discussion thread I did not go into this like I would do some real dissection.
I wrote this on the toilette at work while taking a shit lol.

It's fun to hate on plebs on the forum tho and think about why certain people are like that. That doesn't mean I hate the entirety of the forum, if anything it means I've become invested in it because it once used to have a glorious era with alot of good people to begin with and I still have homies here.

Maybe once the arc concluded fr I will do an AMA where I can give an answer/explanation to every hater question in defense of Oda and his story and if I don't have an answer I will gladly accept it as an official "Oda L".

As I don't have time rn for wallies I prefer to go into single questions if any question remains.

 

[Water1415]

You ask too many questions, it shows impatience.

My reply was ultra halfassed since this is not rly a discussion thread I did not go into this like I would do some real dissection.
I wrote this on the toilette at work while taking a shit lol.

It's fun to hate on plebs on the forum tho and think about why certain people are like that. That doesn't mean I hate the entirety of the forum, if anything it means I've become invested in it because it once used to have a glorious era with alot of good people to begin with and I still have homies here.

Maybe once the arc concluded fr I will do an AMA where I can give an answer/explanation to every hater question in defense of Oda and his story and if I don't have an answer I will gladly accept it as an official "Oda L".

As I don't have time rn for wallies I prefer to go into single questions if any question remains.

You should do that, I have a question