Why are Oda’s black characters super lightskin?
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There are multiple possibilities :
1 - I rule out the clear racism especially knowing what happens in the manga, but a simple lack of the understanding of the importance of representation might explain that and a bit of racist bias in that. (I would go for that first)
2 - It's not easy to represent skin tones in black and white. In reality, you have not a lot of choices and you are forced to used trames to fill dark spaces (I don't know the english equivalent). So it can be time consuming which could explain why some avoid it. But I don't think that is the case for Oda who has assistants.
3 - Some mangaka might have thought - wrongly - at first that the design was enough to suggest the skin of the color. This is a problem of representation once again
4 - Like I said, for black characters, you are forced to used trames. Meaning that it become harder to cast shadows on their skin. It can explain why some might be reticent to depict them. Even tho it's not really a good excuse.
5- (what I would go for that second). It's by design. If you look at the manga before wano, characters who have darker skin are not really that dark, it's more in the nuances and they only appear that way through the coloring. But black characters with darker sking appears with King and Lunarians.
A possible hypothesis might be that Oda intended to introduce the disappearance of the Lunarian race at Wano.. but the story took more time that expected to arrive to this point.
Also.. outside of the black and white : a good coloring makes the difference:
(Yes, go read Radiant)
1 - I rule out the clear racism especially knowing what happens in the manga, but a simple lack of the understanding of the importance of representation might explain that and a bit of racist bias in that. (I would go for that first)
2 - It's not easy to represent skin tones in black and white. In reality, you have not a lot of choices and you are forced to used trames to fill dark spaces (I don't know the english equivalent). So it can be time consuming which could explain why some avoid it. But I don't think that is the case for Oda who has assistants.
3 - Some mangaka might have thought - wrongly - at first that the design was enough to suggest the skin of the color. This is a problem of representation once again
4 - Like I said, for black characters, you are forced to used trames. Meaning that it become harder to cast shadows on their skin. It can explain why some might be reticent to depict them. Even tho it's not really a good excuse.
5- (what I would go for that second). It's by design. If you look at the manga before wano, characters who have darker skin are not really that dark, it's more in the nuances and they only appear that way through the coloring. But black characters with darker sking appears with King and Lunarians.
A possible hypothesis might be that Oda intended to introduce the disappearance of the Lunarian race at Wano.. but the story took more time that expected to arrive to this point.
Also.. outside of the black and white : a good coloring makes the difference:
(Yes, go read Radiant)
Moving the goalpost from racism to xenophobia now are we? Stop being intellectually dishonest and making sweeping generalizations of things you know NOTHING about.
Japan AS A WHOLE doesn't exclude any specific category. They exclude people who don't respect or conform to societal norms of their culture, this includes whites, chinese, koreans, muslims, etc. Just like every other country. Race has almost nothing to do with it.
Because if Japan is considered 'xenophobic' then every country is just as xenophobic as Japan is considering Japan's immigration policies are some of the best today based on work ethic and merit.
Source: trust me bro
So I'm supposed believe your baseless racist (against japanese) claims over visible inclusion where millions of Japanese people support, back up, and cheer for and root for these black figures to represent them internationally, am I right?
Your cope over Oda making some fictional characters 'lightskin' and headcanon claims that they are supposed to be black, in a world where blue people exist, is absolutely embarrassing and this is why you are so often clowned on your takes
Stick to making up scenarios where Roger controls sudden freak weather, it is better than this ignorant garbage thread you spewed
Japan AS A WHOLE doesn't exclude any specific category. They exclude people who don't respect or conform to societal norms of their culture, this includes whites, chinese, koreans, muslims, etc. Just like every other country. Race has almost nothing to do with it.
Because if Japan is considered 'xenophobic' then every country is just as xenophobic as Japan is considering Japan's immigration policies are some of the best today based on work ethic and merit.
Source: trust me bro
So I'm supposed believe your baseless racist (against japanese) claims over visible inclusion where millions of Japanese people support, back up, and cheer for and root for these black figures to represent them internationally, am I right?
Your cope over Oda making some fictional characters 'lightskin' and headcanon claims that they are supposed to be black, in a world where blue people exist, is absolutely embarrassing and this is why you are so often clowned on your takes
Stick to making up scenarios where Roger controls sudden freak weather, it is better than this ignorant garbage thread you spewed
It’s common knowledge that Somalia is a hotbed for pirate activity, so its managed to carve out an identity for itself separate from the rest of the continent. Sort of like how people have a very different perception of Egypt vs Africa at large.
Oda obviously made BB Somalian because of its history with piracy. Oda probably sees Usopp as being from some random sub-Saharan country. Oda probably doesn’t think there’s any difference between Kenya and Tanzania for example
Oda obviously made BB Somalian because of its history with piracy. Oda probably sees Usopp as being from some random sub-Saharan country. Oda probably doesn’t think there’s any difference between Kenya and Tanzania for example
I have never ever delt with a black African that simply says "am from Africa" when asked. The actual country is always mentioned. People who haven't grown up on the continent might treat it as just one big country but I can tell you with certainty that Africans themselves will be the first ones to point out that someone from Niger has little in common with, say, a Zambian.
