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How Strong is Loki?


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Kaido fans really need to get real. There is NO debate about Kaido vs Primebeard, Roger and Xebec. He loses to them.
Loki will give them a great reality check.
And how does Loki affect this discussion?
Yes Kaido loses to Xebec, WB and Roger. U think a fodder like Loki even stands a chance against those 3 or Kaido himself?
 
Why are characters like Akainu, Dragon and Mihawk fucking around and doing nothing for the majority of the story?
Kaido himself was fucking around and sitting his ass in Wano for 2 decades
Yeah but least they have relevance on world wide level.

Mihawk is WORLD'S strongest swordsman
Akainu is Highest ranking officer of world Military
Dragon is leader of faction opposing World Government.
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Snake guard>>>>>>>crow guard.

If snake guard fought Zoro, then it would 1 shot zoro.
Where is it stated that snake guard is stronger
Show me panels
 
At least Kaido is hyped in 1v1 as the best of all
Something even primebeaed and Roger don't have as hype despite them being better pirates and stronger a little
His true 1vs1 against a top tier resulted in a hostage taking situation when he didn't win fair and square. So the "On 1vs1 always bet on Kaido" statement is fraudulent as hell.

Primebeard and Roger don't need shallow rumor hype statements about themselves to reign superior to the world.

I have Kaido as a high top tier which is more than fine; you're just making him to be top 3 when there will appear at least 5 characters who have a very high chance at surpassing his feats: Akainu, Dragon, Shanks, Mihawk (WB, Xebec and Roger are clear), BB, Imu and now Loki or whoever will be Elbaf's main villain.

Still waiting on gorosei & Admirals surpassing bar Kaido even
You can wait all day: I know when it truly comes to it, you will not accept it either way Jo.
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And how does Loki affect this discussion?
Yes Kaido loses to Xebec, WB and Roger. U think a fodder like Loki even stands a chance against those 3 or Kaido himself?
When he forces current Luffy to get a new PU, he's gonna be stronger than Kaido at least.
 
oda drew sanji using ij hell memories while franky used strong right
are you gonna say that move is equal to strong right
Yess they were equal and meant to accomplish same result

Well I guess unless you take it as everyone contributing the best they can.

But imagine Infrit Jambe strong right and Bonney attack separately hitting Luffy and each accomplishing same result, we could say they are equal. Not considering Luffys rubber properties here.
 
Lmaooooo egg-head "feats"

Lost to mentally conflicted nerfed Kizaru
Literally went extreme diff with Lucci and became retired old man with permanent asthma
Ran away like a BITCH from Warcury with 2 1.8 Billion Belly giants helping him

imagine Kaido being that pathetic 🤣🤣
1 shotted blood lusted, going all out Kizaru (despite the fact that Kizaru tried to jump him)
Yes, Zoro did go extreme diff with nerfed deaths door 1 HP Lucci and couldn't even walk and its true that Lucci would've bodied him after ez tanking his strongest ever attack, and Jinbei had to save him by jumping Lucci huffing and puffing with asthma. But Luffy sleep diffed the same Lucci at 100%.
Basically, Sleeping Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>full power Lucci>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 HP, near deaths door, badly injured and weakened, massively nerfed Lucci>/=KOH ACOC Ashura Zoro + Jinbei.
Yes its true that whilst Luffy fighting off 4 gorosei, Zoro pissed and shit his pants at the same time and ran away like a bitch after sneak attacking a off guard Nusjuro (and still doing 0 damage) and just Nusjuro's stare made Zoror run away in fear of getting 1 shotted, despite having his sneak attack powered by Jinbei basically carrying him, meanwhilst Luffy alone fighting off multiple top tiers.
Imagine Luffy being that pathetic :gokulaugh:

Luffy>Kaido merely for the fact that Kaido had trouble with Yamato. Saturn would 1 shot solo both Yamato and fodder trash like Zoro at the same time, whilst Luffy clowned him + Kizaru in a 1v2. So obviously Luffy>Kaido.
 
oda drew sanji using ij hell memories while franky used strong right
are you gonna say that move is equal to strong right
You could justify that by saying each combined their strongest attack to produce as much force as possible doesn't mean each attack is equal.

But this is individual attacks done on same caliber of opponents accomplishing same results. So how can we justify one is stronger than other?
 
1 shotted blood lusted, going all out Kizaru (despite the fact that Kizaru tried to jump him)
Yes, Zoro did go extreme diff with nerfed deaths door 1 HP Lucci and couldn't even walk and its true that Lucci would've bodied him after ez tanking his strongest ever attack, and Jinbei had to save him by jumping Lucci huffing and puffing with asthma. But Luffy sleep diffed the same Lucci at 100%.
Basically, Sleeping Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>full power Lucci>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1 HP, near deaths door, badly injured and weakened, massively nerfed Lucci>/=KOH ACOC Ashura Zoro + Jinbei.
Yes its true that whilst Luffy fighting off 4 gorosei, Zoro pissed and shit his pants at the same time and ran away like a bitch after sneak attacking a off guard Nusjuro (and still doing 0 damage) and just Nusjuro's stare made Zoror run away in fear of getting 1 shotted, despite having his sneak attack powered by Jinbei basically carrying him, meanwhilst Luffy alone fighting off multiple top tiers.
Imagine Luffy being that pathetic :gokulaugh:
Bro get off the cocaine lol
Why you typing a paragraph.

Simple facts no BS
-Mentally Nerfed 5% Strength using Non Awakened Kizaru won against Luffy
-Lucci and Luffy had a stalemate. Lucci got up before Luffy and Luffy was still an old man saved by others
-Warcury Owned him
 
Just testing the water so to speak
Yess they were equal and meant to accomplish same result

Well I guess unless you take it as everyone contributing the best they can.

But imagine Infrit Jambe strong right and Bonney attack separately hitting Luffy and each accomplishing same result, we could say they are equal. Not considering Luffys rubber properties here.
And do you think Kong Gun ~ X-Calibur
 
Goofy had the same reaction to Gorosei. Did they force him to a new power up?
At best Loki is some commander level fodder like Gorosei with some gimmick hax
Luffy would be forced to get a new PU if he had to defeat one Gorosei. His peak couldn't undo either of their immortality hax and Warcury easily tanked most of his attacks.

"At best" lol... You can be damn sure the possible strongest giant with a legendary DF won't be just commander level fodder with gimmick hax. Even Dorry and Brogy beat most commanders with their powers.
 
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