Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1131 Spoilers Discussion

Are you satisfied with Loki’s bounty?


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notice how when Sanji bros do stuff like this: there's no obnoxious watermarks, it's not on a sketchy site with a gorillion porn adverts, and lastly it's done straightforward and without needlessly attentionwhoring/ blueballing people with stupid hints and cryptic bullshit
 
notice how when Sanji bros do stuff like this: there's no obnoxious watermarks, it's not on a sketchy site with a gorillion porn adverts, and lastly it's done straightforward and without needlessly attentionwhoring/ blueballing people with stupid hints and cryptic bullshit
The only issue is, she has no ins with the leakers. She has to wait for scans to be available and can't give hints or anything. She's just a translator.

But yeah, at least she gets as close to VIZ without writing fanfic like TCB.

I'm still annoyed at what TCB did last.
 
Zoro already fought and beat Killer. There's no need for a repeat. Kid's crew is gone. The giants destroyed his crew and ship. If he teams up with Loki he won't be the strongest. It would be similar to Egghead Island.
Right...so Kidd and Killer will never return...

You are correct, Zoro will never be on Kid's level. He will always be beyond his level. Let's look at their track record.

Kid was completely ineffective against Kaido on a rooftop. Couldn't do anything against haki. That attack separates the weak from the strong. He had his constructs easily blown away and destroyed. Could knock BM off the rooftop thanks to help. Beat BM with the help of Law and bombs that did over 50% of the work. When had faced Shanks without help was quickly and easily oneshot.

Zoro was the MPV on the rooftop. He outperform everybody else and proved he was the strongest. He achieved impressive feats against 2 yonkos. He surpassed Oden and beat an opponent who's harder to damage than Kaido and Big Mom and require greater AP to beat.
The only reason why he didn't die to Hakai was because of Law. And kidd would be able to tank/block the attack in the same manner.

Kidd took a full Ikoku with zero blocking and continued to fight -

You mentioned his constructs...That is literally the point...Even if it they get destroyed he can easily rebuild them...not hard to understand

He started the fight solo vs big mom, for chapters. He dealt the most damage to big mom. He took the most damage from big mom. He was the only one, who made big mom dodge an attack.

You mention Shanks , as if the circumstances were in any way similar. Kidd was launching an attack on the ships ahead of him and was hit by Acoc DD + Damned Punk Explosion.

MVP by giving Kaido a paper cut lmao.
:milaugh:

Surpassed Oden? Huh?
:choppawhat:

He didn't defeat King with flames on lmao..

Zoro easily control the battle against one of the strongest CP0 agents while fighting at a low level only using 2 swords. He beat the CP0 agent the second he got serious. He did to that his opponent what Shanks and Kaido did to Kid and Luffy. He was the only one who could force a gorosei to block his attack. They only block or dodge attacks that concern them.

PS: King took on BM and part of her crew and beat all of them by himself.
Warra feats for Zoro vs CP0 agents. Kidd stomps any of them, not sure why you mentioning this lmfao.

So...King is stronger than BM and her entire crew? Which one is the Yonko?


If you're so confident in Zolo, why don't we make a bet. Surely Kidd won't fight someone strong right? Let's take a bet on who will fight the stronger character next...im 100% sure Kidd will take that.

I'll even go further to state the next opponent for Kidd will either be Luffy, Loki, Shanks or an admiral.

Zorogen needs to understand King, Kaku, Lucci, -> Shiryu is # ZOROLEGACY



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Doesn't it give you guys anxiety being in "intense" arguments all the time?

Btw while you were all arguing I won $650 playing online casino lol
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The admirals are strong, but Luffy stood before all 3 of them before and all that was said was that he wasn't ready for that stage yet.

Supposedly there is a time he could be and I guess it's sometime soon if not now lol
 
Loki is pretty hype.

But Oda took away some of his threatening aura by making Luffy look superior right out the gate. I'm convinced now that Loki ain't the main antagonist of this arc.
 
Right...so Kidd and Killer will never return...



The only reason why he didn't die to Hakai was because of Law. And kidd would be able to tank/block the attack in the same manner.

Kidd took a full Ikoku with zero blocking and continued to fight -

You mentioned his constructs...That is literally the point...Even if it they get destroyed he can easily rebuild them...not hard to understand

He started the fight solo vs big mom, for chapters. He dealt the most damage to big mom. He took the most damage from big mom. He was the only one, who made big mom dodge an attack.

You mention Shanks , as if the circumstances were in any way similar. Kidd was launching an attack on the ships ahead of him and was hit by Acoc DD + Damned Punk Explosion.

MVP by giving Kaido a paper cut lmao.
:milaugh:

Surpassed Oden? Huh?
:choppawhat:

He didn't defeat King with flames on lmao..



Warra feats for Zoro vs CP0 agents. Kidd stomps any of them, not sure why you mentioning this lmfao.

So...King is stronger than BM and her entire crew? Which one is the Yonko?


If you're so confident in Zolo, why don't we make a bet. Surely Kidd won't fight someone strong right? Let's take a bet on who will fight the stronger character next...im 100% sure Kidd will take that.

I'll even go further to state the next opponent for Kidd will either be Luffy, Loki, Shanks or an admiral.

Zorogen needs to understand King, Kaku, Lucci, -> Shiryu is # ZOROLEGACY



It’s going to be Loki

Loki is a villain, but he’s clearly not the main villain. His crew is ass and he’s tied to Adam. His bounty is also smaller than Luffy’s.

The main villain will likely be burned man, who frees Loki. This arc seems to be focused on Shanks. We saw that there was a mysterious silhouette character with a sword similar to Shanks’s.

Burned man(Shanks’s brother) vs Luffy
Loki vs Kid
Burned man’s crew vs SHs

Beating Loki made Shanks yonko 6 years ago. It will make Kid yonko now when Teach inevitably kills Shanks at the end of Elbaf.
 
Right...so Kidd and Killer will never return...



The only reason why he didn't die to Hakai was because of Law. And kidd would be able to tank/block the attack in the same manner.

Kidd took a full Ikoku with zero blocking and continued to fight -

You mentioned his constructs...That is literally the point...Even if it they get destroyed he can easily rebuild them...not hard to understand

He started the fight solo vs big mom, for chapters. He dealt the most damage to big mom. He took the most damage from big mom. He was the only one, who made big mom dodge an attack.

You mention Shanks , as if the circumstances were in any way similar. Kidd was launching an attack on the ships ahead of him and was hit by Acoc DD + Damned Punk Explosion.

MVP by giving Kaido a paper cut lmao.
:milaugh:

Surpassed Oden? Huh?
:choppawhat:

He didn't defeat King with flames on lmao..


Warra feats for Zoro vs CP0 agents. Kidd stomps any of them, not sure why you mentioning this lmfao.

So...King is stronger than BM and her entire crew? Which one is the Yonko?


If you're so confident in Zolo, why don't we make a bet. Surely Kidd won't fight someone strong right? Let's take a bet on who will fight the stronger character next...im 100% sure Kidd will take that.

I'll even go further to state the next opponent for Kidd will either be Luffy, Loki, Shanks or an admiral.

Zorogen needs to understand King, Kaku, Lucci, -> Shiryu is # ZOROLEGACY



Maybe they will return maybe, they won't return. If Kid returns and teamd up with Loki there's a chance he will fight Zoro since Zoro has already beat Killer and has a track record with beating supernovas.

Law didn't save Zoro. He stated Zoro tanked the attack. People denying manga facts when it comes to Zoro is a normal strategy I see from Zoro haters.


Did you just compare Hakai to Elbaph spear?
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Before Kadio and BM performed hakai Kaido asked BM if she still had to power to perform that attack. Kaido fought her for 3 days and split the sky against her yet he wasn't sure she had the power to perform that attack. That attack is beyond skysplitting level. That what Zoro blocked and tanked. Hakai is much more than just twice as strong as Elbaph Spear.

Kid didn't even tank all of Elbaph Spear. We can see the energy from the attack traveling over him while he's falling beneath it.

Plus his construct took most of the attack.

If Kid was as strong as you wish he was he would have been the one blocking and saving everybody from hakai. Instead Kid thanked Zoro for saving him.

Kid fought Big Mom for short amount of time by himself. You know who else did that, Jimbe. He blocked BM attack and knocked her off their ship.

I mention Kid construct because they are weak against powerful cutting and high pressure attacks. That's why he was defeated by Shanks in the instant. It couldn't protect them from Shanks attack.

Against Shanks, Kid put himself in that situation and he wasn't fast enough to react to Shanks attack. Stop making excuses for his weakness. It's funny because I'm Wano people were claiming Zoro would get oneshot by a yonko. In reality Kid was the one to get oneshot. Well, him and Luffy.

Yes, the stupid paper cut argument. Kaido never called it so that is headcannon. Zoro beat Kaido in a 1v1 well he was weaken with 20 to 30 broken bones and could barely move. That shits on Kid feats against BM. That was before his in battle growth.

Zoro surpassed Oden by achieving his two greatest feats, scarring Kaido and mastering enma and going beyond Oden capability.

Zoro scarred King whose harder to damage than Kaido even when he's not in flame mode. Zoro tiger hunt failed to damage King. That attack would have easy to cut through Kaido's scales. Plus he took the requirements needed to master enma, overwhelming haki, and turned it into his own unique fighting style. Oden never did that. Don't try to tell me Oden was always using that amount of haki because we don't see any smoke/flames on his sword which is how you could tell when overwhelming haki is used.

Zoro was controlling a battle against awakening Lucci with just 2 swords. Not 2 sword style, but 2 swords. That's the style he uses when he's facing fodder. Could kid do the same when he's only using two metal fist? No, he couldn't. Awakening Lucci matched G5 Luffy speed and clashed evenly against G5 Luffy. Once Zoro was serious he beat Lucci with 1 attack. It wasn't even a KoH attack. He did to Lucci what Shanks and Kaido did to Kid and Luffy.

Is Kid stronger than BM? Of course not. When did I say King is stronger than BM? I didn't. I use that because I knew you would use Kid wisdom king title that he achieved thanks to bombs that did most his work. Nobody has a problem with Kid beating BM because pf bombs. But the second someone mentions King beating BM and her crew it's a problem. Either a win is a win and it doesn't matter how you win or it's not. You can't pick and choose when it matters based on your favorite character.

You still don't understand One Piece do you? One piece is not a fighting manga where a character strength is determined solely off the last opponent he fought and beat. It's an adventure manga about different characters journey. Remember, people thought Zoro was veteran level on a rooftop because he didn't have the opportunity to face and beat stronger opponents.

Zoro opponents are all stepping stones to prepare him for Mihawk by helping him remove any weakness and taking his strength to the highest level in all areas.

- Pica showed off his monstrous physical strength
- Kaido and Big Mom showed us his powerful CoA haki and endurance
- King helped Zoro obtain ACoC, showed us his mobility and insane AP
- Kaku shows us his impressive CoO haki
- Lucci showed us his incredible speed and CQC skills
 
“The Vivre card implies that although Garp lost some strength, the power that fought Roger is very much still intact.”

Kuzan and Shiryu too honestly both get a pretty big upscale @Topi Jerami
Nah, the vivre card contradicts the manga
Manga shows Garp complained several times how he is getting old and weaker now.
How come the power that fought Garp is still intact if he became far weaker now?

For sure, his fist power getting weaker if he doesn't fight enemies like Roger anymore
His pain tolerance probably still the same though, one's pain tolerance doesn't get weaker over time

Means, the fists he did to Aokiji was weaker compared to Prime Garp's fist
Yet Shiryu can still critically injured Prime Garp the same like Hachinosu Garp
 
Nah, the vivre card contradicts the manga
Manga shows Garp complained several times how he is getting old and weaker now.
How come the power that fought Garp is still intact if he became far weaker now?

For sure, his fist power getting weaker if he doesn't fight enemies like Roger anymore
His pain tolerance probably still the same though, one's pain tolerance doesn't get weaker over time

Means, the fists he did to Aokiji was weaker compared to Prime Garp's fist
Yet Shiryu can still critically injured Prime Garp the same like Hachinosu Garp
Shiryu got almost one shot by fodder Garp or Prime.

Pick.
 
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