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The debate is never about the winner, it is more like will Zoro mid diff Sanji or lower diff?
If you want a discussion where the victor is the debate then we have Zoro vs Luffy or Zoro vs Shanks.
For what it's worth, things like Kaku and Jabura having fairly close Doriki and King and Queen having fairly close bounties says to me that Oda considers them close, overall, but Zoro still stronger.

Kind of like Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn for boxing enthusiasts.
 
Don't be obtuse. People hate this forum cuz of this place's obsession with Zoro vs Sanji. The fact that it isn't even as bad as it used to be but we still can't grow in members is proof enough we're not well liked.

Also we have a history of bullying Ledon and other leakers. What happened to Jmena also weighs heavily on this community.

Tldr: This forum has been cooked for a while.
People are obsessed with powerscaling in this forum. If you engage with the weekly bait and powerscaling conversations, you also end up turning into one of them. I'm much better outside of the weekly bait than what I was a year ago when I was engaging with the braindead powerscaling.

It is true that this forum is not very well liked. It was the case in the /r/OnePiece Discord Server when I was still there 2-3 years ago.

 
What I want: collective heel turn

What I think will happen: they break up :josad:
They were really cooking each other today in very personal level. I read a comment where Kofi right now is very emotional, even more emotional during his feud with Randy Orton (can't confirm, I forget what happened in their feud).

But who knows.. Maybe they want us to think New Day definitely break up, while actually they will turn heel together. At first it seemed obvious Xavier is the one turning heel but now I'm not sure anymore.

Kinda easier to tell Dom and Finn Balor or Austin Theory and Grayson will break up, than guessing what will happen to New Day.
I also hope they do a collective heel turn and do a soft repackage of the whole New Day shtick. Keep the name for all I care, but reimagine the presentation.
I wouldn't be surprised if they lean more toward the Hurt Business and how they looked and carried themselves now that they're out
 
I'm much better outside of the weekly bait than what I was a year ago when I was engaging with the braindead powerscaling.
Bro was one of the main sources of it btw
Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

@mly90 @HA001 @GUI VI @Roronoa-sama @ConquistadoR @Cruxroux @ZoroMazino @Peroroncino

You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.

Like @mly90 said: "Toxicity is reaching maximum level in the coming weeks. I foresee a lot of people running away deactivating 🤣"
 
People are obsessed with powerscaling in this forum. If you engage with the weekly bait and powerscaling conversations, you also end up turning into one of them. I'm much better outside of the weekly bait than what I was a year ago when I was engaging with the braindead powerscaling.

It is true that this forum is not very well liked. It was the case in the /r/OnePiece Discord Server when I was still there 2-3 years ago.

Idk if you also were part of Orojackson but both WG and Orojackson were forums mostly oriented on powerscaling and other agenda posting, especially during popular weekly spoilers. There was a fandom called "Luffy defence squad" which intentionally provoked users "against Luffy", then report them to the mods to make them banned. There was also the popular debate about whether Luffy beats Big Mom in WCI. So you can already imagine how the discussions were often getting heated like that.

The mods were on some huge elitist ego trip tho. That's why they banned users for the most trivial reasons. Even @comrade got banned like that.

I get why social media fandoms dislike WG but I also like how people can at least post their criticism - or hatred - to a popular series like One Piece when even some slight criticism would be censored in reddit subs. WG just works like that. It's very similar to OJ because a lot of the former users joined this forum but the mods are way less harsh than in OJ.
 
I also hope they do a collective heel turn and do a soft repackage of the whole New Day shtick. Keep the name for all I care, but reimagine the presentation.
I wouldn't be surprised if they lean more toward the Hurt Business and how they looked and carried themselves now that they're out
Don't you think the promo gone too far today?

Thoughts about Bronson Reed and CM Punk as 5th member? Do you think someone will turn in Wargames?
I like Bronson, he fits with Solo's team. CM Punk is kinda meh imo, wished Heyman come back with 5th member (instead of Seth Rollins) but wished it was Brock instead of CM Punk.

Thoughts about Final Testament + Miz vs Wyatt Six?
I think Wyatt Six will win the overall feud, otherwise their momentum is ruined. But also Karion Kross already got losing streak. He and Scarlett are pretty good.
 
he finally understood lolo is a bum @Pringles
You and the other latrines with 3 brain cells don’t understand. Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

@mly90 @HA001 @GUI VI @Roronoa-sama @ConquistadoR @Cruxroux @ZoroMazino @Peroroncino

You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.


Like @mly90 said: "Toxicity is reaching maximum level in the coming weeks. I foresee a lot of people running away deactivating 🤣"
 
Mihawk is undisputedly the current top 1,...and that's fine it's the manga's narrative that tells us that....

The mighty Mihawk is so strong that almost no one dares to argue with his strength anymore.:pepehawk:
 
You and the other latrines with 3 brain cells don’t understand. Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

@mly90 @HA001 @GUI VI @Roronoa-sama @ConquistadoR @Cruxroux @ZoroMazino @Peroroncino

You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.


Like @mly90 said: "Toxicity is reaching maximum level in the coming weeks. I foresee a lot of people running away deactivating 🤣"
Btw, where's @HA001? I haven't seen him post in a while.
 
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