Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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Kaidou could block Snakeman without using FS... Could Katakuri do the same?

So if it was a single kaidou attack without FS there would be no problem reacting to the attack speed, that's why he only complained about the change in trajectory.
 
Vista. Also some people are butthurt that Blackbeards crew fought Garp and Sengoku but ran away from Akainu
Vista trying as hard as he possibly can to land a single scratch on a guy not paying attention to him and blocking with one hand.

Mihawk: "Vista maybe it would be advantageous for both of us to stop fighting. I'm busy with something more important than you, and if I turn my attention away from it and onto you, I'm going to kill you."

Vista: "Hoho! That sounds good Mihawk! I'll go stand over here!"
 
karasu and morley were literally 1v1ing admirals
They only got away because Fujitora let them
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Kaidou could block Snakeman without using FS... Could Katakuri do the same?

So if it was a single kaidou attack without FS there would be no problem reacting to the attack speed, that's why he only complained about the change in trajectory.
Okay but why couldn't he ask Oden about what he saw on laughtale
 
They only got away because Fujitora let them
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Okay but why couldn't he ask Oden about what he saw on laughtale
Bro, you expect me to argue with you about this when you just started the whole discussion saying that Kaidou didn't make weapons, one point debunked by me, then you jumped to another and asked "Where are those weapons?" and I went there and pointed to a panel with Kaidou's ships equipped with cannons made in Wano, and now you expect me to respond to that?

In a little while I will be teaching you to read and understand. LOL

Just answer my question: If Kaidou asked to use Wano, his country, to turn it into a huge weapons factory and intended to use the local population as labor for this, would Oden willingly accept it?

You don't seem to understand that, although Kaidou extracted information from Oden about the One Piece, his goals were not just the One Piece. He wanted to build the world's strongest army, manufacture weapons, and dominate the world. And for that, you need resources, brainless one. lol
 
Bro, you expect me to argue with you about this when you just started the whole discussion saying that Kaidou didn't make weapons, one point debunked by me, then you jumped to another and asked "Where are those weapons?" and I went there and pointed to a panel with Kaidou's ships equipped with cannons made in Wano, and now you expect me to respond to that?

In a little while I will be teaching you to read and understand. LOL
Wow,after retiring from piracy, he spent 28 years making a Cannon. Genius. For some reason the majority of his crew don't even have guns. But I'm glad he made a Cannon.
 
Her ice around managed to tank hybrid Kaido's thunder bagua.

While base Kaido's thunder bagua did more damage to Luffy than Katakuri managed in his entire beatdown of Luffy. (A feat which also made "Katakuri level" irrelevant as far as top tiers were concerned)

Literally anything Katakuri can land will do jackshit to her.

Dudes just keep ignoring obvious powercreep in a shounen manga for agenda reasons and favouritism. Katakuri is a good character, probably the best in post timeskip after Doflamingo, so people just keep making excuses. It's ridiculous

Assumption of Luffy's physical stats and combat speed being a constant is a big cope in this topic too.
G2's attack speed went from being a joke to pre GK Doflamingo in Dresrossa with even his fastest move, to landing multiple hits on drunken Kaido with slower moves post 1026.
Somehow Kata scales to hybrid Kaido :kobeha:
 
Just answer my question: If Kaidou asked to use Wano, his country, to turn it into a huge weapons factory and intended to use the local population as labor for this, would Oden willingly accept it?

You don't seem to understand that, although Kaidou extracted information from Oden about the One Piece, his goals were not just the One Piece. He wanted to build the world's strongest army, manufacture weapons, and dominate the world. And for that, you need resources, brainless one. lol
Except he did actually try winning over plenty of samurai to his cause. For some samurai, they were allowed to live in his prison for decades with the hope that he would break their will. For some reason he didn't do this with Oden though. But anyway, Oden was naive enough to fall for the dancing thing, so why did he never try getting him to spill the beans on Laughtale?
 
Sure, if we're talking about things he could do, then Smoker could still be important. But so far he's been useless. His presence after Alabasta is negligible.

You know why I can say that?
Smoker was involved with Croc's conspiracy in Alabasta. Yet the Shichibukai still stood.
Smoker saw Law do weird shit in PH. Yet the Shichibukai still stood.
Smoker was assaulted by Doffy in PH. Yet the Shichibukai still stood.

Meanwhile, Fuji came in, witnessed Doffy's DR takeover, spoke against it. And the Shichibukai are no longer.
That's a man of importance.

You can argue that the Shichibukai system couldn't be dissolved before DR for plot needs, and I'd agree with you. But Oda still had no reason to use Fuji for its cancelation, when that had been Smoker's sideplot throughout pre-ts.

So far, Smoker has been a glorified babysitter for the giants kids of PH, and even that lead to absolutely nothing.

Anything Smoker does, there are at least ten other Marines who could do it better. He's useless. You'd think Oda could implement him within Sword, yet he preferred to introduce new characters like golem swag dude rather than show both Coby and Smoker alongside Garp.

Whatever Oda has in mind for Smoker, it's too little too late.
Loker fraudsome.
 
Except he did actually try winning over plenty of samurai to his cause. For some samurai, they were allowed to live in his prison for decades with the hope that he would break their will. For some reason he didn't do this with Oden though. But anyway, Oden was naive enough to fall for the dancing thing, so why did he never try getting him to spill the beans on Laughtale?
"If you tell me what's on raftel, I'll totally leave wano right away bro. Believe me bro"

Kaido suffered massively from PIS
 
Kaidou could block Snakeman without using FS... Could Katakuri do the same?

So if it was a single kaidou attack without FS there would be no problem reacting to the attack speed, that's why he only complained about the change in trajectory.
Katakuri is the base line for future sight ,


kaido , shanks and any other fs user would surpass him in this field cause of their experience and higher potential
 
Katakuri is the base line for future sight ,


kaido , shanks and any other fs user would surpass him in this field cause of their experience and higher potential
Purely in future sight usage, Katakuri is more solid than Kaido, simply because it is his only exceptional power
His future sight is almost always activated, whereas Kaido only uses it when necessary
 
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