Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

Who will be defeated first?


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FS > adcoa or barrier

Oda is giving even anyone higher CoA while fs is only attained by the very best

The fact Kaido neck wasn't cut nor did he really suffer much damage and recovered quick, since his dragon form looks clean in this chapter.

Can't wait for next chapter, Kaido vs retainers and Minks.

Calamities are trash
FS > adcoa?


Two totally different things with different applications..


Wtf is this wank?
 
I'm saying this chapter cannot be used to downplay Kaido since durability is not the only factor to be top tier.. There are high tiers with higher durability than Roger and WB like Marco and Jozu.
Durability = /= hardness
Hardness for cutting/piercing attacks
Jozu > Roger in hardness (without Armament, Jozu with his diamond form)
Roger > Jozu in durability and hardness (with Armament)
Even probably, Roger > Jozu in durability (without Armament and Jozu with diamon form, against non piercing/cutting attacks, against quakes from Shirohige let's say for example)

Kaido has both too, high hardness and durability without Haki. So, this chapter makes no sense.
 

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World's Strongest Swordsman
There is different variations of Armament Haki, as confirmed by both Luffy and Kaido, and each person who has CoA are lumped into a specific type. Will Mihawk have the strongest fCoA best suited for a Swordsmen? Sure... Strongest CoA out of anyone in the series? Let's not get carried away.
Mihawk stomps kaidos fraud ass.
 
There is different variations of Armament Haki, as confirmed by both Luffy and Kaido, and each person who has CoA are lumped into a specific type. Will Mihawk have the strongest for of CoA best suited for a Swordsmen? Sure... Strongest CoA out of anyone in the series? Let's not get carried away.
I think permanent black blade is biggest CoA accomplishment and only way someone like garp could have matched it is permanently coating his fists in Haki.
Mihawk is CoA king in One Piece history, either him or Ryuma.
 
Roger > Jozu in durability and hardness (with Armament)
You literally don't know what durability means.

Roger is a **** who a gun shot would do damage to..whose neck was chopped off by two fodders, whose greatest rival was stabbed by a literal fodder.

Jozu's body is durable enough to survive an attack from WSS. Durability is body's ability to eat an attack, Roger is average in that unless he is using CoA.

But he could have been an endurance freak like Whitebeard was or what Zoro is.
 
9 scabbards with ryou injured Kaido while 2 swords killed Roger.

I don't see how this dehype Kaido lol. Not everyone in this manga is unkillable. Kaido has the highest durability doesn't mean he cannot bleed like normal being.
well thats the thing neutral
his hype was about him being unkillable/durability monster. he doesnt look like much rn . and yes if kaido bleeds like a normal human being, I was right about how strong he was all along.
 
There is different variations of Armament Haki, as confirmed by both Luffy and Kaido, and each person who has CoA are lumped into a specific type. Will Mihawk have the strongest fCoA best suited for a Swordsmen? Sure... Strongest CoA out of anyone in the series? Let's not get carried away.
Why is that being carried away? He's the world's strongest regular human right now. If he had Kaido's or BM's skin, he'd shit on them.
 
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