Questions & Mysteries So who will be Elbaph's villain?

#61
I think what could redeem the Loki as a villain/antagonist idea is if this Mosa guy somehow someway heals Loki and removes the final shackle, but idk how I feel about instant recovery medicine @Garp the Fist @Tyki_Mikk @Dragon777
That is what I think gonna happening.
They leave Loki in believing he is going to stay, Musa use the chance to take the key and free him.

Oda brought Musa for a reason.
 
#62
Oda brought Musa for a reason.
To show us that not everybody thinks he's evil. Which he isn't. Musa is going to be revealed as a frail old woman whom Loki was kind to, fully redeeming his character. He killed his father because Harald was evil. He is threatening Elbaf as a means to be freed, because he wants to take care of the actual threat against the giants: the WG. All of his more questionable actions will be retroactively revealed to have been for a good reason. His relationship with Musa will show that he was a good guy all along.
 
#68
Loki won’t be villain it’s clear Holy knights are setup to be final villains .
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Nah, I’m heavily doubting Loki as a villain. He’s far from the first character to have a bad reputation, but still end up a good guy. That’s the background for most of the Strawhats tbh.

Look at what we have with Loki

-before the arc began, we are told he was in love with Lola. If that is true, then that’s a point in Loki’s favour. Lola is ugly, but she has a good personality. It’s suggesting that Loki cares not about the surface, but about the personality.

-Gerd says that Road is more of the shame of Elbaf than Loki is. That’s the first mention of him in the arc. I find that an odd thing to say. Road isn’t really a bad guy, he’s just a bit of a freak. So to me, immediately comparing the supposed Prince of Darkness to someone else as worse, and that other person not really being so bad... doesn’t set up Loki as someone wholly bad.

-His main sin is that he killed Harald. Seems pretty clear that with the latest chapter, the Celestial Dragons visiting Harald’s grave and the lack of witnesses, that there’s far more to this story than meets the eye. All the other stories of his past remind me very much of Oden’s reputation as a youth. I doubt that Loki’s pranks are him trying to do good, but I do suspect it’s just him doing things that get a bit out of hand.

-he’s judged from birth the same way Hajrudin is, but for a different reason. There’s a prophecy about him- Loki can’t help that. The year he was born was a shitshow for Elbaf- Loki can’t help that. Seems to me that a target was painted on his back from the beginning. Might be that he’s just loving up to the reputation created for him

-he’s friendly with animals, and Luffy becomes friends with those animals as well. The animals are willing to fight for him. That’s not a trait I think Oda will associate with truly bad guys.

-the whole thing where he gets angry when his mysterious freind says that Loki’s angry words just hide his kindness. That’s shouting that there’s some misunderstood parts of his personality, and a lot of what he does is covering that up

-like Kid, another Tsundere bad reputation ally, he can tell the true shits of the world are the Celestial Dragons, and that’s a depth he won’t sink to. Note that Loki does want to be free... but that he still refuses to join them and help them take Elbaf. So Loki has some moral standards

-the entire thing about Luffy, Zoro, Gaban and freeing him. It’s one thing Luffy, being a cheerful and naive (but also good judge of character) trusting him, but Zoro and Gaban also really didn’t take much convincing to release him. Now, Gaban seemingly actually knows Loki. If he’s as evil as Elbaf thinks he is, I doubt he’d be cheerfully letting him loose. Which he basically did. And Zoro is far more suspicious than Luffy is, but he’s went through with it. After all, Zoro has first hand experience that being locked up for being a demon might not be the full story.

Doesn’t rule out him and Luffy having a fight at some point, but having a fight does not make him the main villain.
Loki is the Mary sue of this arc also he is nerfed so bad he needs treatment for months . There won’t be Loki hype unless chopper decides to treat him .
 
#69
Big Daddy Saran arrives on Elbaf, being located just above on his island Kaijushima in the Calm Belt. His bounty is still frozen at 2.2 Billion, and his epithet "Big Daddy" is in contrast with Big Mom as he sees her as someone who ruined his life by abandoning him. Big Daddy Saran wishes to crush Elbaf under his heel. He hates the God's Knights though. Being a former Marine Chief Of Staff before Kong, Saran still has his Justice type, known as Harem Justice.

His crew make quick work of Jarul, Loki, and Hajrudin. The God's Knights retreat, sensing his Advanced Advanced Conqueror's Haki is beyond even Shanks Big Mom, Kaido, Rox,Roger,Whitebeard, Imu-Sama and Figarland Garling combined

This leads to the Final War where the World Government sends Hina, Garp, and Kizaru to plead with Big Daddy Saran to join their side, but since Hina isn't hotter than Boa Hancock, Big Daddy Saran refuses.
 
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Left with no reason, we come undone
#76
A pig zoan main villain would be pretty fire,
That pun lol.








HOLY FUCK ODA....

https://www.sportskeeda.com/anime/one-piece-s-impel-down-arc-may-key-gorosei-s-hellish-powers

:kizawat::snoopy::crazwhat::usoprice:


Need to call these guys to deal with Warcury anyway:







That is what I think gonna happening.
They leave Loki in believing he is going to stay, Musa use the chance to take the key and free him.

Oda brought Musa for a reason.
Musa?!:




:JusticeStops::KizOut::shocked:



But to get back on topic too:

I expected an evil giant with a DF or even Loki with his "legendary DF" or Shamrock or Garling as the villain of Elbaf or even Akainu or Fujitora and Greenbull but I don't know anymore...


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Isn't a poneglyph in Elbaf?!

From this, and what it implies. There'll be a clash in Mary Geoise and in Elbaph. With the Revolutionary Army working on the former.
Considering Blackbeard is heading to Wano and Fish-man Island. Theres these, in order:
The three Holy Knights and Saint Shepherd Ju Peter. I think thats it. Theres no way Shamrock is coming back.
I'd be extremely surprised if there isn't one. Must be in the heaven realm or so. Maybe that could explain why Shanks was in Elbaf of all times now too?

:sus:
 
#78
Loki will be the main fight of the arc. Not necessarily the "villain". Remember, Shanks also fought Loki for a reason as well. Loki's ideals may not be bad per say but they could be destructive & put people in harm's way & there's the Mossa plot that has yet to be revealed. I think Mossa's plot will be huge.

Loki is also the only person on the island strong enough to be a threat for Luffy. Shamrock is a key player for the end game & he can't lose here so he won't be the main fight. Then we just got Loki on The Shonen Cover. We usually see them on the cover when they're Luffy's fight of the arc. Like 99% of the time.
 
#80
Despite Kizaru being on the cover, Egghead was truly saturns arc. He did get the villain moment of ¨being blasted off again¨ by luffy´s punch, but beyond that, Egghead was really about him and how he basically brought back the ancient robot due to his inherent curiousity as a scientist. Technically, Luffy wasn´t necessarily that important in Egghead(not to downplay him) because Vegapunk had already cheated death, he just needed a ride off the island. Same with Kizaru, who didn´t really have a proper ¨loss¨ that takes him out the series, his arc in Egghead can be similar to Luffy in some ways, with both upset at the end. Same is true wrt Loki most likely. Whatever has been going on in Elbaf is deeper then Loki, as we know the HK have a deeper interest in the island. Loki is just kind of like a jackass. Gaban did ¨warn¨ about Loki ofc, but he really didn´t seem actually worried about Loki being freed. He could be really laid back, but I think he wasn´t really worried about him.
 
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