Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1145 Spoilers Discussion

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You're not wrong. I believe this encounter is so straw hats/giants finally know who they are facing. Gunko might tell them to transmit a message to the giants since Usopp was wondering last chapter what would be the kidnappers demands.
I mean, isn’t Loki telling Luffy and them now? This seems like a set up to separate the crew.

Have Usopp and them focus on freeing the giant children (making Usopp a legend on Elbaf) while the giant warrior pirates/new giant warrior pirates/strong SHs/ Loki fight the villains later.
 
"Loki admired Xebec the way Luffy admired Shanks".

I wonder who is the closest alive pirate to Xebec's ideals,

That also happens to have a beef with Shanks,

That also happens to antagonize World Nobles,

First Aokiji, and now Loki. Gigabeard Pirates will be the 2nd coming of Rocks.
They have to step up their game
 
"Loki admired Xebec the way Luffy admired Shanks".

I wonder who is the closest alive pirate to Xebec's ideals,

That also happens to have a beef with Shanks,

That also happens to antagonize World Nobles,

First Aokiji, and now Loki. Gigabeard Pirates will be the 2nd coming of Rocks.
Might as well add that Loki killed his dad for a DF...

And his dad had a fairly familiar mustache...

 
Pretty interesting stuff, if it's not an April fool's joke.

I'm excited to see Xebec, or at least his silhouette!

I hope he'll be what I thought Roger would have been, which is a darker, colder version of Luffy.

Are we going to see firefighter Jinbei memes as a sequel to the Amazon Warehouse Man slander?

Also, interesting as to why Luffy seems to have taken such a shine to Loki.

Makes me feel like chances are even lower for him to be a permanent villain. Maybe he'll be Luffy's Vegeta?
 
We haven't seen it yet, but how is it possible to wrap it with thorns without touching it from a distance?
The thorns can touch you without the user touching you.
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I think hax wise they’re difficult fighters, but combat wise without the giant children hostages they’d be mid trio victims.
Mid trip seems like low balling that would suck. But the mid trip has to fight someone lol.
 
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Mid trip seems like low balling that would suck. But the mid trip has to fight someone lol.
I have very little faith in these guys. They’re supposedly opposing the RA which has only 3 strong guys and 4 maybe strong guys.

Beyond that, you have like Hack who was negged by Barto and a bunch of other fodder in the RA?
 
Because he still managed to be seen as a big enough threat for Garp and Roger to put him down. He can still be a Buggy type whilst being really strong too. He doesn't need to be exactly like Buggy but just have his charisma, cunning and ingenuity especially with resourceful bullshitting he excels at.

Buggy is still considered a Yonko despite not being remotely close in strength to one. He's literally fodder and still managed to become a Yonko but he still garnered respect from powerhouses like Crocodile and Mihawk enough even though they refuse to admit it. People can have their feats, their hype, their strength exaggerated and misunderstood.

There are other ways to impress people even without pure strength, although Kaido would be impressed most by strength so I will give you that and thus what I'm suggesting is a bigger stretch then but still. It's also far more interesting than Xebec just being another generic unstoppable, "evil" powerhouse too, especially when he had such ABSOLUTE monsters already in strength, attitude, reputation and such willingly under his command too.

Xebec probably was that guy, he probably was that inhumanly strong but to me thats such cliche, generic, predictable, dull writing especially if he just got everyone to join him via strength and thus intimidation alone. I don't even need Killingham to send me to sleep again with such a yawn inducing yarn.

It makes it far more impressive if Xebec was not the strongest in the crew but still commanded respect, authority over them and kept them in line. I doubt there will be as much of an extreme power gap like Buggy vs Mihawk and Crocodile but I still hope he's not the strongest in the entire crew.

But at the same time, Garp and Roger had to teamup to take him down supposedly, so fuck it. Most predictable/generic scenario, lets go. I'll contain my hype.
So as in, he is still on Roger/WB/Yonko's overall level, but isn't drastically above/below them, but gets them to think he is, using cunning?

It could work. Honestly if Shiki is anything to go by, two tiers can still struggle somewhat to beat one even if they are comparable in strength.

So we can still have Garp and Roger vs Rocks without Rocks breaking the powerscale.
 
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