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I think Kizaru giving Luffy food was overall a big breaking point. In my 12 years in this Community we have by far the most People saying that Admirals can fight Yonko on equal ground. you have to pull hella headcanon to argue how Kizaru could fight G5 for its whole time but is not Yonko lvl.
Kizaru fought gear 5? luffy no haki pizza diffed him and Saturn together. Only admiral losers like you that are nothing but failures in life and will never be taken seriously would dare to call that a fight. Its a no diff. Gear 5 negs all the marines combined.
 
I think Kizaru giving Luffy food was overall a big breaking point. In my 12 years in this Community we have by far the most People saying that Admirals can fight Yonko on equal ground. you have to pull hella headcanon to argue how Kizaru could fight G5 for its whole time but is not Yonko lvl.
The most common excuses I've heard are:
- Kizaru ran away the whole time and never actually fought Luffy

Even though this page exists.

So the argument is that Kizaru only won due to matchup and would get clapped by anyone else, while Luffy would destroy any other Admiral because he would not get tired by them the way he did with Kizaru.
- Kizaru being mentally nerfed didn't nerf him that much even though we've seen multiple cases of mental nerfs fucking over a character - hell, that's what the whole Water 7/Ennies Lobby arc was about.

Or that Luffy was:
- Holding back his ACOC even though his friends were in danger
- Literally nearly dead from hitting the EH laser barrier which Bonney survived.
- Exhausted from previous fights even though he had a night to recover
- Flat out nerfed because Oda said something about having to put obstacles in front of Luffy due to him being strong, back in Fishman Island
- Never all that strong, he only beat Kaido after the latter was exhausted after fighting Yamato, Scabbard etc and is therefore the second weakest Yonko after Buggy.
This is just a lie
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Join the VA agenda my man. You get almost no backing from Oda himself and have to use next level arguments to defend our boys.
Garp is technically a VA you know. And so were the C3, Sengoku and maybe Dragon.

Also Doll is best girl, Momonga best boy, Onigumo top 1 spiderbro and Vice Admiral Chins is a cool Kaiju reference.
 
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The most common excuses I've heard are:
- Kizaru ran away the whole time and never actually fought Luffy

Even though this page exists.

So the argument is that Kizaru only won due to matchup and would get clapped by anyone else, while Luffy would destroy any other Admiral because he would not get tired by them the way he did with Kizaru.
- Kizaru being mentally nerfed didn't nerf him that much even though we've seen multiple cases of mental nerfs fucking over a character - hell, that's what the whole Water 7/Ennies Lobby arc was about.

Or that Luffy was:
- Holding back his ACOC even though his friends were in danger
- Literally nearly dead from hitting the EH laser barrier which Bonney survived.
- Exhausted from previous fights even though he had a night to recover
- Flat out nerfed because Oda said something about having to put obstacles in front of Luffy due to him being strong, back in Fishman Island
- Never all that strong, he only beat Kaido after the latter was exhausted after fighting Yamato, Scabbard etc and is therefore the second weakest Yonko after Buggy.


Garp is technically a VA you know. And so were the C3, Sengoku and maybe Dragon.

Also Doll is best girl, Momonga best boy, Onigumo top 1 spiderbro and Vice Admiral Chins is a cool Kaiju reference.
Dude you're talking too much

Luffy didn't go all out
Kizaru didn't go all out
Luffy won 1v1 round 1 and won 1v2 round 2

Kizaru won't nothing
There's no round he ended the fight by kicking luffy down and that's it
 
The most common excuses I've heard are:
- Kizaru ran away the whole time and never actually fought Luffy

Even though this page exists.

So the argument is that Kizaru only won due to matchup and would get clapped by anyone else, while Luffy would destroy any other Admiral because he would not get tired by them the way he did with Kizaru.
- Kizaru being mentally nerfed didn't nerf him that much even though we've seen multiple cases of mental nerfs fucking over a character - hell, that's what the whole Water 7/Ennies Lobby arc was about.

Or that Luffy was:
- Holding back his ACOC even though his friends were in danger
- Literally nearly dead from hitting the EH laser barrier which Bonney survived.
- Exhausted from previous fights even though he had a night to recover
- Flat out nerfed because Oda said something about having to put obstacles in front of Luffy due to him being strong, back in Fishman Island
- Never all that strong, he only beat Kaido after the latter was exhausted after fighting Yamato, Scabbard etc and is therefore the second weakest Yonko after Buggy.


Garp is technically a VA you know. And so were the C3, Sengoku and maybe Dragon.

Also Doll is best girl, Momonga best boy, Onigumo top 1 spiderbro and Vice Admiral Chins is a cool Kaiju reference.
Not such a thing as a mental nerf, Luffy G5 makes him kinda nuts and insane
 
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