Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1146 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

I hope the secret to defeating them isnt related to CoC or some secret D clan bullshit.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I think it would be. Gunko seemed like she’s seeing the outside world for the first time.

Yeah but for the audience, is there a big difference in whether she’s reveal as Nerona when she’s introduced proper or 30 pages later?

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

This chapter shows two of Oda's biggest mistakes:

1. Making the Straw Hats an Emperor crew. Because he will ALWAYS make them the underdog, which completely is against the point of what an Emperor is supposed to be.

2. Imu's magic powers. If the Holy Knights all had these powers, why the hell didn't the Gorosei sic a trio of them after Luffy when he punched Charlos?

 

[Dragon777]

But then it's weird how gunko got it and she looks young whilst the LEADER of the God knights looks like a wrinkled bag of chips. Does that mean gunko got the powers very early on or Figarland chose to not have eternal youth of sum?

Maybe Imu grants immortality only at his highest ranking servants.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Reminder that imu twerked to haki that was equal to Shank

JB's haki was better. Even giants question if its better than shanks's haki.

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah but for the audience, is there a big difference in whether she’s reveal as Nerona when she’s introduced proper or 30 pages later?

Yes? Would be a descendant of Imu and would allow us to learn more about him.

 

[SDfear]

So, basically, Imu can give his stupid bullshit magic to as many people as he wants with no drawbacks, apparently.

Wait for Luffy to match this stupid magic, when he gives his magic to Pirates

 

[gz89]

The regeneration hax has become like CoC post ts.

Oda gives it to everyone.

 

[Dragon777]

Kizaru vs Apoo: Admirals were the OG regen merchants

Then haki as a concept got introduced to counter them

Gorosei regen is beyond logia regen as far as we know. Probably CoC or something higher needs to be used to counter it

I think a "trick" or simply knowing how Is more likely.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yes? Would be a descendant of Imu and would allow us to learn more about him.

I just don’t see why it’d be hidden. Gunko is a new mysterious character regardless.

 

[OPKnK]

Yes someone is missing the point, do you know how weak it is for the gunko m3 if even usopp can rip off the arm of the gunko? It's a shit feat

Did you know that that super strong people like law or Zoro could hold heavy damage from a normal gun .
She has normal body and maybe did not even use haki on it for the ussop hit by why would she care when she has regen .
Look at the elder you see any of them giving fuck when they get hit no because they have regen.
Hell all SH there do damage to Saturn but he did not give fuck .

 

[Ven437]

You're missing the point, this is still a durability anti feat

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

@MonochromeYoru

When Jozu slammed Kuzan, Kuzan's ice form shattered.

That doesn't mean the damage to Kuzan's real body was the same it was just a lip bleed.

Damage to the elemental body even with haki =/= the damage to the real body.

Apoo cutting Kizaru's light form says nothing about Kizaru's actual durability.

This isn't the case with Gorosei/HK regen, any damage that appears on their real body is the same.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Give him a week to properly digest everything and he’ll be fine with it

 

[Lor D. Coast]

I hope the secret to defeating them isnt related to CoC or some secret D clan bullshit.

The more there are the dumber the gimmick to defeat them, at this point even Koala is going to beat one.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

At least Oda used Kuma to first highlight Saturn's immortality, not fucking Bumsopp

goofy franky usopp brook all have actual body damaging feats against the immortality hax users

Goofy and his 3 commanders right here

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[CoC: Color of Clowns]

To anyone saying Gunko is weak for not dodging/taking damage:

Haki is a limited resource in One Piece. We know this from Luffy's Gear 4 and 5 draining him of his Haki.

We have no evidence so far that the Regeneration of the Gorosei and God's Knights has a set limit

If there is no resource connected to the regen, and you can do it infinitely, Gunko would be a freaking idiot if she wasted Haki on attacks she could easily recover from using the Demon Powers.

I wonder if the regen connects to the Abyss? Like, the powers COME from the Abyss?

Either way, if Gunko's regen powers are infinite, she is NOT WASTING HAKI BLOCKING USOPP, HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Apoo never bypassed logia intangibility.

When you bypass logia intangibility you just hit the real body.

So we have no idea if Apoo could even damage Kizaru.

I don't understand where the comparison even comes from
Logia don't have regen (except maybe Greenbull)
Hitting their logia body is completely different from hitting their real body. Any hakiless fodder can "destroy" a logia body.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

2025 and people still don't know how logias work:

@MonochromeYoru

When Jozu slammed Kuzan, Kuzan's ice form shattered.

That doesn't mean the damage to Kuzan's real body was the same it was just a lip bleed.

Damage to the elemental body even with haki =/= the damage to the real body.

Apoo cutting Kizaru says nothing about Kizaru's actual durability.

This isn't the case with Gorosei/HK regen, any damage that appears on their real body is the same.

 

[Dragon777]

We are seeing a repeat of the admirals \logia users.
Who did not give fuck if they get hit until haki came around .

Maybe, but the difference Is that Logia users were not damaged at all; here we have actual damage and then Regen.