Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1148 Spoilers Discussion

[Blax Blah]

Unless Shamrock explicitly defeats Gaban (no) it’s not looking good for Saint Shanks fans. Garling’s favorite son is about to stalemate Gaban at best and look inferior at worst.

There are three Lee Hungs

1. Kind helpful encouraging Lee Hung with encouragements and exercise

2. Admiral vs yonko Lee Hung

3. Theory Lee Hung, kind but not as kind as the first one

 

[RayanOO]

The Admirals (bar Akainu obviously) are weaker than Shanks too. Moot point.

Not moot at all

Shanks > Shamrock

Shanks > Kiz / Fuji / GB

But nothing says Sham > Admirals

They are likely around same level but nothing points for Sham being stronger

Garling has a much better case : more important character, Higher ranked, likely more of a final enemy than Sham

 

[soupongo]

They’re still individual people who are forced to do things against their will based on who has authority over them.

Like cmon, that’s immoral

They aren't people though. They can't function in normal society or anything like that, they just have some traits similar to the warlords they're cloned from

 

[DarkWitch]

GB is a bum

Sham is maybe stronger

 

[MarineHQ]

The older brother is rarely weaker than the younger brother.

Shanks beat Kaido during MF and if Shamrock remotely scales to Shanks he's above him as well whereas every Admiral is ruled above Shamrock per title scaling.

Akainu >~ Admirals > Shamrock > Kaido

 

[Sentinel]

GK downplay to protect the Admiral agenda...
At the end of the day every ability will end up being a gimmick that gets circumvented in some way.

GKs and Gorosei do not need to have to most insane AP when they have one of the most broken abilities so far.
Borderline intagibility is what instantly elevates logias into high tier without even trying. Its worse for GKs regeneration.
Even someone like Luffy could not handle it, which means that one ability alone would make them eventually overpower someone who managed to bring down a top tier.

I ain't reading all of that

 

[Cross_Marian]

Holy Knight scaling is pretty confusing

Gunko incapacitated the Strawhats including Jinbei pretty quickly but she’s also gimmicky as fuck

We’ll have to see how they fare against opponents that can counter their regen

The problem is we don’t really know where to scale Gaban either so it’s almost impossible to put them in any bracket

Idk

Old Ray kept up with Kizaru
Old Gaban is right behind them in strength
The gap varies according to your agenda

and Jinbe's capturing was rather a strategic move from him
He wanted some time to think

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They aren't people though. They can't function in normal society or anything like that, they just have some traits similar to the warlords they're cloned from

They can? Like that’s literally what Stussys whole character was about?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Not moot at all

Shanks > Shamrock

Shanks > Kiz / Fuji / GB

But nothing says Sham > Admirals

They are likely around same level but nothing points for Sham being stronger

Garling has a much better case : more important character, Higher ranked, likely more of a final enemy than Sham

I understand but Shamrock has the regen and a sword with a Mythical Zoan in it plus whatever DF and Haki abilities he has
Plus he's likely going to fight Shanks or another top tier

 

[Bullet]

Who tf cares if Shamrock beats Gaban ?
Kizaru was beating Gaban's superior within 2 minutes of sword clashes.

When did that happen?
Oh the famous Huff huff cope
Does that make Kamazo, Zoro's superior as well?
Aokiji had to tag team Waban's rival two weeks ago

 

[Roo]

Since PoL seems to be the counter to the HKs immortality, it’s gotta somehow connect to the Will of D imo since the Ds are known as the enemies of the gods they need to be able to kill the HKs through immortality too.

You think Gaban is a D?

 

[soupongo]

Think of all of them at there EOS PL

Sabo EOS will be near PK levels imo

Okay, still 3
Imu
Eos Luffy
Blackbeard

 

[trav]

Rev Commanders are fodders who will be used to hype up the remaining 5 HKs

They just got back from invading the WGs holiest sanctum with Admirals present.
If they are fodder then it refelcts on anyone that could not stop them as well.

 

[kekaro]

You think Gaban is a D?

Bro has the only D that can hadnle a giantess thats for sure

 

[Welkin]

Gaban scales to the rest of the old legends like Old Ray and Old Garp imo. Approximately the same strength as Kizaru

Ehhh there are 2 things wrong with this

1. Ray and Garp have ACoC and Gaban (as far as we know) doesn’t which is a pretty big deal when they’re all fruitless

2. Not sure I believe any of them are on par with Kizaru currently. They’re too old

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I don't even think more then like, 3(?) of the characters on the cover spread are beating Aramaki

Jesus yall really overrate the Admirals here lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You think Gaban is a D?

I wouldn’t be shocked tbh. The Power of Love showing up this late in the story imo means that it’s a power that not everyone can use so it needs some kinda bloodline element

 

[ElderOnitar]

Oda considered this an important question to answer.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Gaban scales to the rest of the old legends like Old Ray and Old Garp imo. Approximately the same strength as Kizaru

Didn't you say Kizaru is above Luffy though? How can they be equal to him?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Prime gabano=Sommer