Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1150 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

King's head isn't even close to a fucking laser, what are you doing man? He just said it's like one because of it's absurd speed and power.

Sanji isn't nearly as fast as Kizaru. I dont even know where that one came from because Kizaru has the top 3 or 2 best speed feats in the verse so far.

True, but Zoro doesn't need KoH that long for Sanji.

And again, this is just a matter of Oda not wanting to show that in the manga (and also wanting to keep certain characters alive for future events). But even then we still saw stuff like Lucci getting utterly shredded by him.

Zoro literally compared the two. Zoro used the laser simile to state kings attack is something he can’t defend against. Clearly means he can’t deflect or cut lasers too.

Oda comparing moving so fast the naked eye can’t perceive to moving fast as light in SBS 110. Sanjis speed feat is only surpassed by Kizaru, and yes that’s magnitudes faster than King or Lucci.

Zoro will need KoH for Sanji. Zoro was getting easily dodged by Flame On King. Sanji will be able to do the same.

Oda has had no issue showing beheadings or dismemberment. Zoros in no way cutting through Sanji if he couldn’t cut through flameless King.

Zoro ~ Sanji now just as it’s always been and always will be.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Novels aren’t canon btw

 

[soupongo]

They’re supervised by Kishi so

@Sentinel

Kishimotto also supervises Boruto(he doesn't)

 

[Ven437]

Databooks also tend to blow things out of proportions. Iirc, the databook stated Temari can wipe out the universe and Kurama's bijuu dama blows up the planet, lol.

Idk about the novels. Are they not non canon?

Novels are generally treated as secondhand canon so they COULD be referenced in the main series. but not canon to the manga if there is contradiction

IIRC Shikamaru light novel referenced a Naruto movie thing which definitely cannot be treated as canon. There is no evidence Kishi was ever involved in the writing of the novels

Bleach light novels are canon tho. They include lots of supervision from Kubo. And current anime is supervised by Kubo too and includes new shit not seen in manga. So it all depends on how involved mangaka is

 

[Roo]

You strayed away from the discussion, that's an entirely different matter, we're talking about Danzo's decision

Anyway
As Tobirama explained it, the Uchiha feel love far greater than normal people, and when their emotions get tainted it their eyes respond to the trauma and they receive greater power to enact vengeance. Tobirama was fearful of the Uchiha but he didn't do anything drastic, all he did was propose a democratic vote for the Hokage seat. Madara as paranoid as he was immediately saw that as an open declaration of war, the hate filled his heart so quickly he started envisioning Tsukuyomi as the solution to the world's problems.

Tobirama then tried to slowly shift Uchiha's loyalty towards the village instead of the clan, as he did with all other clans. He did understand that the Uchiha power can be used for good and evil, but there was nothing he could do to ensure the future generations maintain their steadiness.

The world doesn't revolve around the Uchiha
Senju are by no means racist, the Uchiha for decades lived peacefully and did their task for the sake of the village, all was going well
Though I guess, Hiruzen is to blame for allowing the paranoid Danzo this much control
It all boils down to this basically, Hiruzen being incompetent, Danzo being paranoid, Uchiha being a cursed clan

The thing is, you’re making hypotheticals when the answer is already given. Kishi told us all of this could’ve been avoided from the start. I don’t have to abide by your hypotheticals

 

[Sentinel]

I keep seeing these one piece ai trailers on YouTube. They crazy

AI tech is so quickly evolving, it's crazy.

I think Terminator is coming sooner than we expect.

 

[Roo]

@Sentinel

Kishimotto also supervises Boruto(he doesn't)

He actually took over Boruto lmao. You can tell by the art change

 

[HA001]

AI tech is so quickly evolving, it's crazy.

I think Terminator is coming sooner than we expect.

Check this god valley one out

 

[Sentinel]

@Sentinel

Kishimotto also supervises Boruto(he doesn't)

What is Burrito (Boruto)?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The thing is, you’re making hypotheticals when the answer is already given. Kishi told us all of this could’ve been avoided from the start. I don’t have to abide by your hypotheticals

Tbh the only time we get this in canonical material is from Minato saying maybe he could’ve done something or 6 year old Sasuke maybe could’ve changed his parents mind.

I am of the opinion that once grand conspiracy to overthrow Konoha was being discussed, it was too late for the Uchiha.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Zoro literally compared the two. Zoro used the laser simile to state kings attack is something he can’t defend against. Clearly means he can’t deflect or cut lasers too.

Oda comparing moving so fast the naked eye can’t perceive to moving fast as light in SBS 110. Sanjis speed feat is only surpassed by Kizaru, and yes that’s magnitudes faster than King or Lucci.

Zoro will need KoH for Sanji. Zoro was getting easily dodged by Flame On King. Sanji will be able to do the same.

Oda has had no issue showing beheadings or dismemberment. Zoros in no way cutting through Sanji if he couldn’t cut through flameless King.

Zoro ~ Sanji now just as it’s always been and always will be.

I don't have much time to argue this further but I'll point out the most blaring issues:
One: Zoro using a simile about a laser doesn't mean he can't block a laser. It's just to emphasize the speed of the attack. It's like a boxer's punch being compared to a bullet because of how fast and powerful it is. It doesn’t mean it's actually just like a bullet though. It's merely a metaphor to emphasize speed.
Two: Sanji has no speed feats on par with blitzing Snakeman Luffy as well as dodging him. Disappearing is something we saw Kuro do in the East Blue. It's really not that special.

 

[MarineHQ]

Wdm which Bible? Ehm canon scriptions that contain 66 books from the first book the Genesis to the last one the Revelation( also known as Apocalypsis).

Jehovah's witnesses have their "Bible" while Mormons have additional scripture part of their "bible" too.

 

[SakazOuki]

The thing is, you’re making hypotheticals when the answer is already given. Kishi told us all of this could’ve been avoided from the start. I don’t have to abide by your hypotheticals

So you're not willing to discuss the complexity of this topic and only gonna parrot this Kishi quote, which I agree with in my post anyway

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I keep seeing these one piece ai trailers on YouTube. They crazy

A.I is the future

 

[Julius]

This guy gonna show up older and show CoC and FS get ready

Jinbe hype

 

[Rumble]

And that is

Oda knows what he has in those characters.

Blackbeard is a historically great foil for the medium. Kaidou, likewise, lived up the massive role and space he occupied in the story.

These are iconic characters, from their laugh to how they're referenced.

These things don't just happen by themselves. Oda likely loves these characters deeply. He put decades of life into building up both, and he's still building with Blackbeard.

Crydo fans lace that up with crack too

I'm not a fan of Kaidou in particular, I just think he's good a character, and one Oda doesn't want to completely remove from the space he had him in all this time.

 

[Vergil]

Aniking where's the summary?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don't have much time to argue this further but I'll point out the most blaring issues:
One: Zoro using a simple about a laser doesn't block a laser. It's just to emphasize the speed of the attack. It's like a boxer's punch being compared to a bullet because of how fast and powerful it is. It doesn’t mean it's actually just like a bullet though. It's merely a metaphor to emphasize speed.
Two: Sanji has no speed feats on par with blitzing Snakeman Luffy as well as dodging him. Disappearing is something we saw Kuro do in the East Blue. It's really not that special.

1. Zoro stating something can’t be blocked because it’s like a laser means that the laser can’t be blocked. That’s the point of the connection.

2. Sanji turned invisible via speed. Here’s what oda said about that:
“That action seemed to have been done in the ‘speed of light’ that even the naked eye can’t see.” Literally equating invisible movement to light speed.

Again, it’s clear as day odas intentions here.

 

[SakazOuki]

 

[MonsterZoro]

@worstgenhq aka @Tyki_Mikk

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