Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

[EkkoLoJinx]

Every is a bit of a stretch.

I didn’t know that you focused so much on likes like you are 14.


That’s Dr. Alwaysmind to you sir.

can we yeet this guy ty

 

[Hayumi]

What has you putting Flower so high?

I think what sold me the most was her coming up with different ideas and her confidence on the plan she settled on. Eventually doubled down and seems to have that sort of townie arrogance where she thinks she has the smartest possible options of coordination figure out. Her immediate offensive attitude at everyone saying otherwise struck me as more of a townie contrast then her last scum game where it felt like she did more to try and appease vs genuine frustration but then again I’m clearly not a great flower read based on her scum game so I’m not confident it’s just an early lean.

Her more recent posts are just so so, but she has valid points about questioning what her understanding of your plan was so for now I’ll keep her there

why YTW?

ig why crowned too idr much from her

YTW just vibes. Crowned I’ve mind melded with so far in terms my thoughts on all the back and forths and stupid plays going into the night phase. Tbh a lot of the other players haven’t given anything to go off of yet or I just have early doubts

 

[Ratchet]

1. i dont know how u took my "derp" post as thought i am addressing hime when 2 posts

Already answered this. If you don't want to allow for any misattribution then you should use quotes, it's what they are there for. As you are reading through the thread, it becomes very easy to attribute a post as being towards another as you lose the element of time between the posts. It's a very simple concept. If you want to respond while not quoting then you'll just have to accept that this can happen.

2. i never agreed to any plan that involved watcher + all players visiting a single player, neither yours nor flowers.

You made several posts saying to go with Flower's plan, some I believe even after she revised hers, so again, very easily done.

think any plan that involves watcher and all players visiting 1 person is just not practical. you added a whole kingmaker aspect to it which made it worst after i got to fully understand it imo

what flower is doing is probably cuz i agreed with her other plan and i read her favorably, while you kinda dont. seems pretty standard for her

This is a non-answer.

you entered town reading a player i was susing (hime) and tried to catch me in a contradiction with AM comment. sound like a struggle to me

Yeah this is not a real read. You haven't even really tried to reconcile the hime read with me, and you keep twisting this AM thing to farm it for content that simply isn't there. Youre going to have to do a lot better than this I'm afraid. Try again?

 

[Ratchet]

I need to go read that particular post in question because I don’t recall off the top of my head. But I think he’s questionable in general so I’ll read back

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

lets do a compromise @Ratchet

we can do the kingmaker plan but then the kingmaker gets to decide if they wanna do the watcher plan or the 7-7-7

or even better we can establish a council of 3-5 players to dictate whether to use watcher or 7-7-7 plan and issue the target(s)

@Flower @Hayumi @hime etc.. this good for u guys?

 

[York]

I like the everyone visits 1 person plan

 

[Ratchet]

I think what sold me the most was her coming up with different ideas and her confidence on the plan she settled on. Eventually doubled down and seems to have that sort of townie arrogance where she thinks she has the smartest possible options of coordination figure out. Her immediate offensive attitude at everyone saying otherwise struck me as more of a townie contrast then her last scum game where it felt like she did more to try and appease vs genuine frustration but then again I’m clearly not a great flower read based on her scum game so I’m not confident it’s just an early lean.

Hmm, not really sure about this. Flower uses Appeals to Emotion more frequently and strongly than anyone I've ever seen, as scum. Not to say you're completely wrong but I would expect to at least try and keep a handle on it as town. It's certainly not impossible that she reacts this was as town either, that i give you.

Her more recent posts are just so so, but she has valid points about questioning what her understanding of your plan was so for now I’ll keep her there

And what valid points are these?

 

[Hayumi]

lets do a compromise @Ratchet

we can do the kingmaker plan but then the kingmaker gets to decide if they wanna do the watcher plan or the 7-7-7

or even better we can establish a council of 3-5 players to dictate whether to use watcher or 7-7-7 plan and issue the target(s)

@Flower @Hayumi @hime etc.. this good for u guys?

give a brief summary of both plans one more time and then I’m never asking anything about it lmao

 

[Ratchet]

lets do a compromise @Ratchet

we can do the kingmaker plan but then the kingmaker gets to decide if they wanna do the watcher plan or the 7-7-7

or even better we can establish a council of 3-5 players to dictate whether to use watcher or 7-7-7 plan and issue the target(s)

@Flower @Hayumi @hime etc.. this good for u guys?

I don't really care that much about how the watcher or doctor mech will be used. I'm not exactly i different but I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm the smartest in the room (in everything, at least), so I'm willing to defer on that. I'm more invested right now in isolating your play - frankly I think your positions have been egregiously bad, mostly in how absolute and quick you are to come to a conclusion, in a way that I think you would have more pride in yourself as town. Whether I agree with the quality of your town game or not, this seems a bit low to me.

I mean even here you clearly understand there is value to Kingmaker here, but at the time you said it was nonsense and terrible. Hard to really buy as genuine because they were obviously positions taken to the extreme - it's the fact you felt the need to do so at all is what I find potentially telling.

 

[Alwaysmind]

can we yeet this guy ty

You are just jelly because I’m flavouring the shit of this game and you talked yourself into a corner Dr. Crayola.

Hey look over there, Dr. Dan hasn’t posted in a while and he liked a post. Must be sus.

 

[Alwaysmind]

For now the pressure is on your academic credentials.
That doesn’t mean that there’s a plagiarist or a ghost writer somewhere else in the thread.
Time to find the fake doctors.

 

[Hayumi]

Like, here Ratchet proposes for everyone to pile on on the same target.
All while arguing that my plan which is even better than that Kingmaker shit would fail because people wouldn’t all follow and target a single player.
While proposing the same thing, but worse and that would allow scum to not only chain mislynches if they appoint a Kingmaker who they know would nominate the wrong target, but also more control of the narrative. Kingmaker is rarely Town sided since scums can always vote for a bad King.

And again, that’s wrong.
Player A is scum and busses Player B.
Player A has bus cred and can tell people who to pick next.
Then after 2-3 days Player C eventually busses Player A.
Takes control for a few more days.

Kingmaker like this is just a way to give the scum team agency in a plan that’s essentially just mine with a gimmick. And as previous game has shown you are good at setting up busses. Since you already agree that people piling on on one target is feasible we should just have a second vote separate from the lynch to determine the target for the night democratically without Kingmaker stuff which is literally not needed.

Again, denied.
Now I really need to go to bed and take my eye drops.

And what valid points are these?

These in particular I can see coming from a townie lense

 

[Yoho]

🤔let's see let's see

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Already answered this. If you don't want to allow for any misattribution then you should use quotes, it's what they are there for. As you are reading through the thread, it becomes very easy to attribute a post as being towards another as you lose the element of time between the posts. It's a very simple concept. If you want to respond while not quoting then you'll just have to accept that this can happen.

nobody had issue with it but you though, and in this site its incredibly easy to get me lynched, you can see how when i see you saying something i know is not true its raising alarms off immediately. now i know this is an incredibly easy thing to prove false and not an angle you'll continue pushing as scum but i still have to call it out when u make it with my pre-existing (pre-rand) comf bias of u struggling as scum in wg.

You made several posts saying to go with Flower's plan, some I believe even after she revised hers, so again, very easily done.
This is a non-answer.

i always meant the 7-7-7 plan

don't rly know what answer you're looking for here, you're probably town because you're clenched asfk about me calling out 2 wrong things u did regarding my slot, figured ud probably let that go long ago as scum

Yeah this is not a real read. You haven't even really tried to reconcile the hime read with me, and you keep twisting this AM thing to farm it for content that simply isn't there. Youre going to have to do a lot better than this I'm afraid. Try again?

i did though, we had a long talk about the hime read and i came around to letting her go for now. i think your recollection of some stuff about hime was incorrect regarding what plan she was opposing + when she said she didnt read the OP + when my scum read of hime actually started / what i didn't like about her

think i got wat i want from this otherwise, happy to move on if u r, otherwise ama

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

im actually not really THAT letting go of the hime read tbh but for now can get a pass ig

 

[Alwaysmind]

I agree that Dr.Pollen appears more townie, though a naive one as I feel the mechanics would have a safeguard as it would be too easy to solve the game in her proposal.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I don't really care that much about how the watcher or doctor mech will be used. I'm not exactly i different but I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm the smartest in the room (in everything, at least), so I'm willing to defer on that. I'm more invested right now in isolating your play - frankly I think your positions have been egregiously bad, mostly in how absolute and quick you are to come to a conclusion, in a way that I think you would have more pride in yourself as town. Whether I agree with the quality of your town game or not, this seems a bit low to me.

I mean even here you clearly understand there is value to Kingmaker here, but at the time you said it was nonsense and terrible. Hard to really buy as genuine because they were obviously positions taken to the extreme - it's the fact you felt the need to do so at all is what I find potentially telling.

you in or not geezus christ

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

what im suggesting is basically best of both worlds

we take the kingmaker part but we mash it in with the 7-7-7

preferably we have a kingmaker council

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

also i think we've been cross talking alot earlier which is why you think im talking about another plan every time i say "flower's plan" (i think?)

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I agree that Dr.Pollen appears more townie, though a naive one as I feel the mechanics would have a safeguard as it would be too easy to solve the game in her proposal.

fuk maybe AM is not the way, blud never writes posts like these as scum

alright im officially drawing a blank and probably gonna get lynched for it arent i

gets boring every game