Role Madness Too Many Doctors (Game Thread)

I agree that Dr.Pollen appears more townie, though a naive one as I feel the mechanics would have a safeguard as it would be too easy to solve the game in her proposal.
then again maybe I’m over thinking because there were no safeguards in the Mario kart games 12 years ago where it was clear that the exploit was to spam the thread. Making the lives of the 2-4 other players trying to play it like a normal mafia game very miserable. :yearight:
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
These in particular I can see coming from a townie lense
Like, why though lol. Like what part of that do you see that makes you think this cant come from scum?
nobody had issue with it but you though, and in this site its incredibly easy to get me lynched, you can see how when i see you saying something i know is not true its raising alarms off immediately. now i know this is an incredibly easy thing to prove false and not an angle you'll continue pushing as scum but i still have to call it out when u make it with my pre-existing (pre-rand) comf bias of u struggling as scum in wg.
Few things I think it wrong here. First, this pre-conceived notion you have. I'm pretty sure I have the best win rate as scum out of everyone here, on this site. More to the point, I've just come from a scum game where I was not voted a single time. Now, it's no secret I find scum, these days, to be a bit of a joyless chore. It's true. I wish it wasn't but the appeal just isn't there for me nowadays. So I don't think it would be all that difficult to notice disinterest. But this idea that I would be reduced to pushing against easily-veritable things - like it's just silly. You cant even write it out without conceding that it would be dropped, because it's so silly.
don't rly know what answer you're looking for here, you're probably town because you're clenched asfk about me calling out 2 wrong things u did regarding my slot, figured ud probably let that go long ago as scum
So how do you get to here from earlier being willing to stake your life on me being scum? Do you see now why I called your read performative and not real? Because I was right. There is no way you can be that certain and then pivot over the span of a couple of hours. It doesn't really make it easy for me to find you because I know that, if you're scum, you'd be invested in reconciling here at least somewhat to avoid being pushed out early. And this could easily just be that. I suppose the best thing I can do is pause here, but I am a long way from reading your slot town Ekko. A very long way.
im actually not really THAT letting go of the hime read tbh but for now can get a pass ig
I mean, I haven't been that enthused by her holistically either. I just think the angle, originally, lacked consideration for what scum would be doing. I would not call her a strong town read.
also i think we've been cross talking alot earlier which is why you think im talking about another plan every time i say "flower's plan" (i think?)
To an extent, sure. Not sure that covers everything but it's 3am so I think I've had enough for now.
 
Day 1 Votecount 1.4 New
Day 1 Vote Count 1.4

Ekkolojinx (3): AlwaysMind, Yo Tan Wah, Ratchet
Flower (1): Flower

AlwaysMind (1): Ekkolojinx

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MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
Is there a reason that you are not calling her Dr. Juice? Do you know something that we don't Dr. Crayola?

But I agree with Samuel Jackson, there are too many doctors in this mother fucking thread!
.. her?

:MonkeighWhat:
Vote Lynch Daniel
I believe he's quite new, cut him a little slack
Question about this king of the hill plan

The odds of the king being right and that person they wanna target is scum is significantly lower than the chance that they are town

Wouldn't that just be giving scum free kills?

And on the off chance the target they pick is scum that doesn't automatically mean they themselves arent scum


So how can town negate these possibilities or will we just take the risk ?
Like we said, it's all about the pressure of being in the position that is the main point here, sure Scum can get free kills with it, but they stand to have a lot more at stake if they find themselves as the King.

As Town you can obviously make a wrong call, that is somewhat inevitable, but the main thing that separates Town from Scum is the burden of Knowledge. Scum has to try their best to divert suspicion from their teammates while at the same time not coming off as suspicious themselves, they have to be mindful as it is, but with all eyes on the King it creates an even greater presure on them where they will have to constantly make a decision whether or not they kill Townies or if they buss their mates to keep up the illusion.

Town doesn't have to worry about this., I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say here.

Scum can indeed get "free kills" this way, but the question is if they can keep nerves of steel.
 

MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
getting 2 out 7 to agree in each sector is not terribly hard imo. im a sucker for pushing hard on town momentum, if we have a good poe end of day 1 id love to hammer it all with kills. i was thinking as we approach day 1 yeet we make 2 lists like this:
1. if the yeeted player flips town, kill A, B, and C, and
2. if the yeeted player flips scum, kill X, Y, and Z

i find mine more fun too and accelerates the game more. i can see the angle behind yours from a controlled gameplay standpoint but i disagree with it because it's too punishing. you lose 2 townies for the price of 1. even if a townie correctly killed scum, if they make a mistake next day they get killed. you're guaranteeing a steady flow of dead townies for each dead scum, and twice as much if a townie king ordered a misfire.

lastly just cuz we devised a kingmaker doesnt mean entire player list will continuously comply to visiting the player who the kingmaker says to visit. it's wg, you'd get inactifags that forget to submit actions or submit whatever on their own without reading the thread. it doesnt fix my main issue with flower's watcher plan which i didnt like to begin with.

my plan only requires 2/7 for each sector to agree, this requires basically everyone to do so, and risks creating false positives.
Sounds to me like you just wanna speedrun this, and I don't see how this favors town.

If the goal is to widdle the numbers, then I think it's going to do more harm than good. Cus let's say you succesfully hit 1 out of 5, you're now getting 1 scum for the price of 4 - then what do you sit with?

I don't know about you, but I find the odds of a PoE of 5 by D1 would succesfully identify more than 1 or maybe 2 scums.
But again it's really way too big of a risk versus the reward as I see it.
 

Yoho

✌𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓢𝓲𝓶𝓹𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓲𝓽𝔂 𝓸𝓯 𝓛𝓲𝓯𝓮✌
.. her?

:MonkeighWhat:

I believe he's quite new, cut him a little slack

Like we said, it's all about the pressure of being in the position that is the main point here, sure Scum can get free kills with it, but they stand to have a lot more at stake if they find themselves as the King.

As Town you can obviously make a wrong call, that is somewhat inevitable, but the main thing that separates Town from Scum is the burden of Knowledge. Scum has to try their best to divert suspicion from their teammates while at the same time not coming off as suspicious themselves, they have to be mindful as it is, but with all eyes on the King it creates an even greater presure on them where they will have to constantly make a decision whether or not they kill Townies or if they buss their mates to keep up the illusion.

Town doesn't have to worry about this., I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say here.

Scum can indeed get "free kills" this way, but the question is if they can keep nerves of steel.
Ahh I see
 

MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
Hime
Flower
YTW
Crowned

Are currently my top town leans more or less.


In my immediate poe is
Mango
Daniel

Everyone else is somewhere in my giant null category, I’d say I could also see a wolf between Ekko/Fuji
Can't say I'm very impressed

Having a new player and myself as the PoE is really lazy, the only reason why you named me is because it's easy to do so. You have nothing on me, I'm just creating noise and you're picking an easy target.

The Town list is something I guess, I have questions about why you've chosen to name these players here though.
 

MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
think any plan that involves watcher and all players visiting 1 person is just not practical. you added a whole kingmaker aspect to it which made it worst after i got to fully understand it imo

what flower is doing is probably cuz i agreed with her other plan and i read her favorably, while you kinda dont. seems pretty standard for her
I think the fact you're opposed to a kingmaker paints a very unfavorable picture of you here.

Not only are you adamant in trying to eliminate 5 players with very limited available information - and likewise returning miniscule information on their flips. But you're also trying to shy away from a strategy that favors Town in the form of a Kingmaker.

If I didn't know better, I'd say it looks like you have a lot at stake and you want to try and gain control with all haste.
 

MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
I need to go read that particular post in question because I don’t recall off the top of my head. But I think he’s questionable in general so I’ll read back
The question really becomes do you think Ekko and myself would ever be on the same team

And he's been actively trying to use WG as some sort of a proxy to discredit Ratchet this entire time
 

MangoSenpai

Tribal Martial Artist
Why is dr.pollen self voting again?
Mindgames, she was facing opposition with her self proclaimed "perfect plan", and so she voted herself because she allegedly believes in her plan so much that she offers up herself despite her claiming that she never wants to get lynched in games.

In what fucking world is me who hates being mislynched offering a mislynch on myself poor emotional control, it‘s the complete opposite LMAO.

Which is why you offering yourself up is a self preservation move as you intended your vote to discorage people from voting you.
 
Good morning! I was looking forward so much to this game, but the pings didn't work, and I went to sleep.

Now I have 30 pages to read which will maybe not happen. I understand Flower has a plan but I see above she is self voting so the plan will go to waste for exactly this reason (probably).
I will talk to her soon ig when she will wake up.
 
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