Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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It’s not overhype. He’s still comparable to Kaido. It just confirms the previous gen was insanely stronger than the current gen the fact that Roger’s third strongest subordinate was comparable to the strongest yonko.
Yeah, he was Indeed comparable to twenty years younger Kaido.

And no, people trying to sell Oden was comparable to Roger when the reality was that Oden wasn't even stronger than Gaban was completely stupid.
And we have always known btw, but that Is the overhype.
 
Yeah, he was Indeed comparable to twenty years younger Kaido.

And no, people trying to sell Oden was comparable to Roger when the reality was thet Oden wasn't even stronger than Gaban was completely, monumentally stupid.
And we have alwasy known btw, but that Is the overhype.
Kaido never grew stronger during those 20 years.

Obviously oden isn’t pk level but he’s still comparable to the strongest yonko of the current gen.
 
Clearly! Akainu beat him in a fight anyone that says otherwise is agenda driven.

Was this supposed to dispute what I said about Sanji?
Being stronger with it being ambiguous shows the gap is small. It's like with akainu and kuzan sure akainu is stronger but the gap is so small it's pretty much kuzan ~ akainu.

Same thing with gaban and Rayleigh. If this is somehow an L sanji then I fear what a w would like :risisweat:
 

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Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

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You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.

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Being stronger with it being ambiguous shows the gap is small. It's like with akainu and kuzan sure akainu is stronger but the gap is so small it's pretty much kuzan ~ akainu.

Same thing with gaban and Rayleigh. If this is somehow an L sanji then I fear what a w would like :risisweat:
Bro clearly doesn’t understand what the Sanji agenda truly is lmao
 
Gaban > Oden, who’s comparable to Kaido, confirmation destroying the Sanji agenda is a new level of cope lmao
Why are yall constantly bringing up Oden? I don’t care about Oden in the slightest. This is deflection at its finest. As far as I’m concerned Oden is as much of a crewmate as momo, I don’t know if Scopper is stronger or not and I don’t really care.
 
Why are yall constantly bringing up Oden? I don’t care about Oden in the slightest. This is deflection at its finest. As far as I’m concerned Oden is as much of a crewmate as momo, I don’t know if Scopper is stronger or not and I don’t really care.
Oden is canonically comparable to Kaido lmao.

And oden himself calls himself a Roger Pirate so that’s just sad cope
 
This chapter only confirms Gaban is weaker. It also confirms that wings doesn’t equal strength, nor does shoulder to shoulder. It confirms that the Sanji agenda is built on the back of Zoros and Rayleigh accomplishments.

I don’t quite understand why yall aren’t just Zoro and Luffy fans at this point.
Blud talking as if I am a Lanjidog 😂😂 I am a Shanks/Luffy fan LMAO. I have admitted it multiple times. Sanji is a leech and his future agenda is completely dependent on leeching off Zoro and Rayleigh and Gaban. I have no shame in admitting that since I ain’t sanji fan 🤷‍♂️
 
Kaido literally became Yonkou and WSC in that timeframe.



And for that I have thank Gaban for the rest of the manga.

People were really pushing that Kaido "top 5" as if it wasn't about Kaido's most important fights, but as if Oden ~ Roger lol.
Kaido gaining the title didn’t make him stronger plus we’re never told how he got it. However we’re told when characters get stronger from time passing. Kaido didn’t
 
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