Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

kaido had oden in his top 5 in the current day

 

[DonWick]

Lmao you’re coping hard still.

Prime Sanji > Gaban > Oden ~ Kaido as per canon

Explain how this relates to your L? This info is wrong and irrelevant.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Zoro fans: “Haki > all”

OLD Gaban has better haki than prime Ofen

Zoro fans: “I’m going to ignore that”

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Explain how this relates to your L? This info is wrong and irrelevant.

What L lmao I said for years that Sanji will surpass the current yonko. You’re the one who got another massive L because you just couldn’t believe it lmao

And nope everything I said here is canon information

 

[Dragon777]

Are you talking about the Kaido beating a character who was distracted? That doesn’t make the two equal at all???

Lol, Oda on paper made beyond clear compairson between Luffy and Oden, with the exact same scene.

It's no wonder after that Oden went in the trashbin and Joy Boy/Nika came.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

And that's for sure since beating Oden It's still great.

As for what he did, idk, but the same went for Shanks for example until Erbaf. And even then we don't know what he did after Foosha to become stronger.

let me help
nada
he didnt fight anyone stronger than oden bar a skirmish against shanks which didnt go well.


so this narrative of getting stronger and becoming wsc is hogwash
he was called invincible by the time he fought oden.

 

[MarineHQ]

kaido had oden in his top 5 in the current day

And yet Rayleigh and Gaban are stronger than him

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Lol, Oda on paper made beyond clear compairson between Luffy and Oden, with the exact same scene.

This literally doesn’t change the canonical fact that Kaido himself believes Oden could be able to defeat him.

Just cause Luffy was a worthy opponent =/= being equal to oden lmao that’s a huge leap of logic.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

And yet Rayleigh and Gaban are stronger than him

Thats my point

 

[DonWick]

Your first point is aboit fanbases and nothing of what is actually stated in the manga.

Secondly when you have to an extreme diff fight were the outcome is a tossup that's pretty much equals it's why people use ~.

Lastly theres ample evidence of them being close however your confirmation bais prevents you from seeing this. Just look at your reaction to what hajrudin said he's not sure if gaban is the third but you jump to rayliegh being omega stronger than gaban despite what other characters have said throughout elbaph

The manga didn’t state extreme diff for Ray Gaban. It stated he’s weaker. This isn’t confirmation bias it’s me using what the the manga directly stated and you trying to soften the blow by applying an arbitrary fan made difficulty. Only one of us is using fact here and it isn’t you.

 

[Dragon777]

let me help
nada
he didnt fight anyone stronger than oden bar a skirmish against shanks which didnt go well.


so this narrative of getting stronger and becoming wsc is hogwash
he was called invincible by the time he fought oden.

Ok. What did Shanks? What did WB after GV? What did BM since GV?

 

[Doggo]

I never did any of this, I do think that at the time of end of Wano Sanji couldnt beat King as I dont think he has the AP for it. I dont know how he can even now tbh.

AP is a non issue.
Lunarian gimmick revolves around flame on mode, which King constantly turns off during the fight.
There's 0 reason to think King would stay 100% flame on if fighting Sanji.
Sanji is faster than King. The moment he turns off the flame, is the moment Sanji can counter him. That's all.
Sanji fought "durable" enemies multiple times.
Jabra was a Tekkai specialist.
Absalom boasted about his modified durable body.
Queen is a cyborg ancient zoan.

It was never an issue. And now he has the exoskeleton, which allowed him to completely face tank a fishman karate clean hit from S-Shark without flinching a millimeter.
Solid high diff, minimum.

 

[Hiragaro]

Damn, Zoro is quite shocked

He almost fainted

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Even you don t belive that

I was literally saying back in 2021 that Oden wasn’t shit, man is a pure swordsman who can’t even match Fujitora or Ryokugyu as a swordsman. For reference King had multiple attributes directly comparable to Kaido and Katakuri had attributes comparable to Saint Shanks and Kaido as well. Yet Lolden can’t match any top tier swordsman in a contest of swordsmanship.

Nah, Lolden is trash, a one trick pony YC2 with zero versatility who can’t even claim to match any top tiers in any attribute while King for example has the durability of Kaido (if not greater) as well as magma like flame comparable to Kaido and even Akainu.

 

[DonWick]

It's not even worth it lol, don't bother with Sanji fans. They're crazy

Yeah they’ve went from coping to moving the goal
post completely

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The manga didn’t state extreme diff for Ray Gaban. It stated he’s weaker. This isn’t confirmation bias it’s me using what the the manga directly stated and you trying to soften the blow by applying an arbitrary fan made difficulty. Only one of us is using fact here and it isn’t you.

Your bias is legit hilarious. Apparently when the manga says they’re equal it doesn’t matter but when Hajrudin makes a guess who’s stronger it means Rayleigh >> Gaban.

 

[DonWick]

He is 0.1% weaker

It is only one word that matters and and only one point that’s fact. “Weaker”

 

[Monkey D Theories]

kaido had oden in his top 5 in the current day

More proof Kaido was a fraud

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ok. What did Shanks? What did WB after GV? What did BM since GV?

Kaido legit hasn’t fought any of them in 20 years. We’re told specifically he and Whitebeard never fought. We’re told big mom and he haven’t seen each other in decades.

The only fight is a small skirmish with shanks 2 years ago and fucking gecko Moriah lmao

 

[Mathias]

Where are my jobless scanlators ? Raw have been out for 9hours