Controversial Shiryu and 10 Titanic Captains
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Luffy hit Garp once and he is already bleeding. Luffy needed to do teamwork with Mr. 3 just to hit Magellan. Showing the difference of dangerous level among the 2.
When Old Garp attacked Hachinosu, half of BBP including the captain Blackbeard himself, weren't present. And Old Garp was still mid diffed.
When Jack chose to face Fujitora + old Sengoku + old Tsuru instead of attacking Impel Down, you know Magellan is real deal.
When Old Garp attacked Hachinosu, half of BBP including the captain Blackbeard himself, weren't present. And Old Garp was still mid diffed.
When Jack chose to face Fujitora + old Sengoku + old Tsuru instead of attacking Impel Down, you know Magellan is real deal.
I mean even morgans drew blood out of garp. Garp doesn't have any special defense when he is not trying to block or in a real fight.
Garp was bullying Kuzan and even yonko BB was amazed by it. Kuzan said they barely capture him.
Magellan is a weakling who was kept at bay be pre skip Luffy. He is trash.
Garp was bullying Kuzan and even yonko BB was amazed by it. Kuzan said they barely capture him.
Magellan is a weakling who was kept at bay be pre skip Luffy. He is trash.
Magellan vs Blackbeard Pirates
Garp vs Shiryu Pirates
Garp's peer, Sengoku vs Blackbeard Pirates post fight
Bias aside, you can tell which 1 performed the best against Blackbeard Pirates. Magellan is not below the old legends.
Garp vs Shiryu Pirates
Garp's peer, Sengoku vs Blackbeard Pirates post fight
Bias aside, you can tell which 1 performed the best against Blackbeard Pirates. Magellan is not below the old legends.
Doesn't change anything. Non knowledge current Blackbeard Pirates with Gura and DF would also get neg diffed by Magellan. The key was knowledge of Magellan's power, not Gura Gura nor other DFs.
This Yonkotard acting as if former Admiral Kuzan was alone
Bruh, the one who critically injured and weakened Garp was Magellan's equal 2 years ago.
This Yonkotard acting as if former Admiral Kuzan was alone
Bruh, the one who critically injured and weakened Garp was Magellan's equal 2 years ago.
Doesn't change anything. Non knowledge current Blackbeard Pirates with Gura and DF would also get neg diffed by Magellan. The key was knowledge of Magellan's power, not Gura Gura nor other DFs.
This Yonkotard acting as if former Admiral Kuzan was alone
Bruh, the one who critically injured and weakened Garp was Magellan's equal 2 years ago.
This Yonkotard acting as if former Admiral Kuzan was alone
Bruh, the one who critically injured and weakened Garp was Magellan's equal 2 years ago.
Current BBPs >> Pre skip BBPs with no DFs.
Kuzan >> Pre skip no gura BB
I never denied shiryu not weakening garp?
Doesn't change anything? Bruh if you are going to troll, don't quote me.
Current BBPs >> Pre skip BBPs with no DFs.
Kuzan >> Pre skip no gura BB
I never denied shiryu not weakening garp?
Current BBPs >> Pre skip BBPs with no DFs.
Kuzan >> Pre skip no gura BB
I never denied shiryu not weakening garp?
Owning Gura Gura or any other powerful DFs doesn't make you suddenly immune to Magellan's hax. Maybe you can talk about logia and Magellan lacking armanent haki, but the fact that Gura Gura is paramecia confirms having it doesn't make you any stronger against Magellan's poison.
"Current BBPs" while the captain and half of the crew weren't even present
You denied it, by only mentioning Kuzan and not mentioning the other BBPs that also faced Garp.
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Either Yami BB or Yami Gura BB or DFless BB are the same. Without knowledge, they all got one shotted by Magellan's poison.
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Pre TS Shiryu's equal, Magellan is portrayed the same as Aokiji: the only 2 opponents (not counting the ones in Marineford) that pre TS Luffy can't beat.
Manga fact.
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I presume it gets awakened and do some broken shit like making the user turns into nothingness.
Cause basic invisibility requires just regular observation haki with focus. It's good to catch a competent observation haki user offguard maybe once, but that's about it. One of the first things Rayleigh trained Luffy deals with basic invisibility - tie your eyes and sense the opponents.
Fitting for nothing more than being a side ability of someone like Queen at this stage of the story.
I prefer to believe that Oda has something else in store for this fruit, else it makes zero sense to give it to RHM of BBPs.
Cause basic invisibility requires just regular observation haki with focus. It's good to catch a competent observation haki user offguard maybe once, but that's about it. One of the first things Rayleigh trained Luffy deals with basic invisibility - tie your eyes and sense the opponents.
Fitting for nothing more than being a side ability of someone like Queen at this stage of the story.
I prefer to believe that Oda has something else in store for this fruit, else it makes zero sense to give it to RHM of BBPs.
Here is what i noticed about Titanic Captains:
1. They are Designed to be Ruthless & Corrupt Criminals who enjoy Hurting Others
So Overall, these Captains are Designed to only Shine when each one is taking on a Nation by themselves, not Pure 1v1s,
This leads me to conclude that Blackbeard Pirates are Created to Counter a Specific Group of People who are divided among Multiple Islands,
And they include Very Powerful Armies who are extremely troublesome for the World but an Easy Prey for BB Pirates,
These seem to be Kingdoms of Giants beside Elbaph, it's obvious They will eventually answer the call for Ragnarok or End Battle,
So Titanic Captains Job is to Stop their Armies, this is why They are treated as "Captains" rather than "Commanders", it's cuz each one gonna have their own Incident,
It's why Oda gave Laffitte Wings, gave Doc Q his Flying Horse, gave Auger Teleportation, gave Pizarro Ability to merge with Islands, gave Devon Shapeshifting Abilities, gave Shiryu Invisibility & even Sanjuan Wolf might simply Infiltrate his own Origin Island ... etc
Now to Save All Giants, it doesn't become a question of "Who can Defeat this BB Commander?", instead it's a Question of "Who can Save those Giants from that Particular BB Commander?" (It's actually possible that this entire Holy Knight Incident before Imu's Arrival was a Lesson for SHs to Prepare for Tricky DFs & pick their Opponents Carefully, rather than being Unprepared for a Fight),
For example, Laffitte will Use his Hypnosis on his Target Army, so before He is Defeated, those Giants need to be Saved First, and the only SH who is Created to Solve that is Brook,
We also have Augur who can Snipe Giants from unreachable Distances, only SH who can stop him is Usopp,
We have Doc Q who's gonna make Giants Sick, so only Chopper can Save them,
We have the Arsonist Vasco, and We've seen how Giants desperately need Jinbe to stope Huge Fires,
... etc
So imo Titanic Captains (With Exception of Aokiji) are only Created to Delay Ragnarok & spread their Corruption, while SHs gonna Use their Skills to Save the Day, and after those People are Saved & BB Captains Powers are Countered, Oda can simply draw them getting One-Shotted by SHs similar to how Hody's Commanders were Defeated in a similar fashion,
It's basically JoJo's Style Fights, and They will help each SH have their own Incident & Heroic Tale & Island that worships them.
So Regardless of how Strong People think They are, i will always see them as mere Hype Tools for SHs.
1. They are Designed to be Ruthless & Corrupt Criminals who enjoy Hurting Others
- This indicates to me that each Captain is meant to Endanger a Group of People
- This indicates that each Captain requires their own Island as their Fight Arena
- This indicates that Strength, Size & Numbers are Useless against them
- This indicates that They don't need to be Together, each Captain can be sent on a Mission Alone
So Overall, these Captains are Designed to only Shine when each one is taking on a Nation by themselves, not Pure 1v1s,
This leads me to conclude that Blackbeard Pirates are Created to Counter a Specific Group of People who are divided among Multiple Islands,
And they include Very Powerful Armies who are extremely troublesome for the World but an Easy Prey for BB Pirates,
These seem to be Kingdoms of Giants beside Elbaph, it's obvious They will eventually answer the call for Ragnarok or End Battle,
So Titanic Captains Job is to Stop their Armies, this is why They are treated as "Captains" rather than "Commanders", it's cuz each one gonna have their own Incident,
It's why Oda gave Laffitte Wings, gave Doc Q his Flying Horse, gave Auger Teleportation, gave Pizarro Ability to merge with Islands, gave Devon Shapeshifting Abilities, gave Shiryu Invisibility & even Sanjuan Wolf might simply Infiltrate his own Origin Island ... etc
Now to Save All Giants, it doesn't become a question of "Who can Defeat this BB Commander?", instead it's a Question of "Who can Save those Giants from that Particular BB Commander?" (It's actually possible that this entire Holy Knight Incident before Imu's Arrival was a Lesson for SHs to Prepare for Tricky DFs & pick their Opponents Carefully, rather than being Unprepared for a Fight),
For example, Laffitte will Use his Hypnosis on his Target Army, so before He is Defeated, those Giants need to be Saved First, and the only SH who is Created to Solve that is Brook,
We also have Augur who can Snipe Giants from unreachable Distances, only SH who can stop him is Usopp,
We have Doc Q who's gonna make Giants Sick, so only Chopper can Save them,
We have the Arsonist Vasco, and We've seen how Giants desperately need Jinbe to stope Huge Fires,
... etc
So imo Titanic Captains (With Exception of Aokiji) are only Created to Delay Ragnarok & spread their Corruption, while SHs gonna Use their Skills to Save the Day, and after those People are Saved & BB Captains Powers are Countered, Oda can simply draw them getting One-Shotted by SHs similar to how Hody's Commanders were Defeated in a similar fashion,
It's basically JoJo's Style Fights, and They will help each SH have their own Incident & Heroic Tale & Island that worships them.
So Regardless of how Strong People think They are, i will always see them as mere Hype Tools for SHs.
Interestingly, in the card game contract bridge, the suits are ranked for bidding as follows: Spades (Pica) > Hearts (Vergo) > Diamonds (Diamante) > Clubs (Trebol). That's the order I've always seen them in.
I realise that i believe now Vergo the true number 2, Pica was incredibly shit as an enemy, sanji enemy territory
Tbh Vergo is weird to me. He wasnt defeated in the same arc as the other members and he broke the tradition of the second strongest member losing to Zoro while the third lost to Sanji. And given that he lost to Law who at that time was probably a little stronger than Zoro he might have even been the true second strongest of the crew. Though of course Zoro could have beat his ass regardless lol
