What does Wifom mean?
Probably someone answered already, but it is short for Wine in front of me.

The phrase itself is a reference to this movie scene , but if you don't want to watch it, basically it is when you make a statement that could be true or it could not be - in other words it becomes an infinite loop of reverse psychology where if your statement is true or not is impossible to know
 
While I admittedly have cut him some slack myself, I can't help but think you've been perhaps a little bit too lenient on him.

That being said, I have a hard time seing a Koba/ Michelle world, either one of them are red - or neither.


Or, well, there is a non zero chance that Koba may be the SK honestly. Though it is based off my interaction with him D3, and the very plausible scenario that Orca got everything going for him to serve as the perfect scapegoat.

Orca may have to be flipped at some point though
, then we will see how the situation is
the dark places that confirmation bias take you, take note of the bolded. Mango, I suggest you actually READ what people say before you post absurd theories. You could easily show that michelle/me being scum/scum is the most absurd take of all time by simply looking at michelle's treatment of me since day 1 (i could also provide evidence to the fact that her play around me being like this would be completely inane and that I would have bussed her ages ago if we were both scum)

As for orca, I have been vocal this dayphase about orca being more clear than not for claiming a result - a stupid small thing, but their activity has shown to increase in complexity with regards to how they're interacting with thread, especially in a spot they're allegedly cornered socially and mechanically.


I have a question: What makes Polar Bear town whatsoever here? IIRC you defended them earlier dayphases, I would like you to explain, with quotes, and explanations. I spent a good amount of the last EOD rereading d1 and analyzing the game to see if I can refine my view on the game. Polar Bear I cannot still fathom how anyone is townreading at this point. (I am also similarly embarassed I ever townread jag or hayumi since in retrospect hayumi had clear signs I ignored in lieu of effort)
 
If you refuse to cut out the illogical aspects of the reads you are making in play that are based on false assumptions/are unsourced entirely, I am forced to presume the more you do so, the likelier this is intentional and not a genuine part of your analysis here.
 
TOWN:
@Fujishiro
@York
@Ratchet
@Michelle
@Alwaysmind
@MangoSenpai

POE:
@KWEH
@Hayumi
@Polar Bear
@The Orca
@Jaguark101

ok I ran out of steam rereading, this is where I am at. high POE is more likely to be SK than groupscum to me. Moved up AM because I think Polar always flips mafia, and is never paired with AM, very important context.
Claims:

DkKoba: Single target schizo between 5 roles [Roleblocker, Action Destroyer, Action Deprioritizer, Bus Driver, Action Randomize]
N1 jag
N2 orca
N3 hayumi
N4 jag

Clear off Alexis parity cop check

commuter-esque role

unclaimed?
was targeted by flower n1, investigated as doing no actions IIRC

"I targeted [Kweh] last night(N4). If no one messed up with my action, yours couldn't be blocked. "
No other targets claimed

no claim?
allegedly did not visit anyone, will ask for reclaim

can make target immune to investigative, no claimed targets

Jailkeeper
N1 nobody
N2 Alwaysmind
N3 & 4 Orca

relatively sure unclaimed

Tracker
N1 Luka, he made no action
N2 Ali slot, I was informed I was blocked, Koba claimed
N3 no one, I think Kweh said he jailed me this day to
N4 Alwaysmind, he made no action, Kweh says he jailed me so he had to have been elsewhere

"My ability is situational, essentially I use it on someone and if they target someone and hit them then the following cycle their abilities are unblockable however if they fail to hit their target then that person will lose all protection for that cycle and the following cycle. "

claimed never used ability

if someone else could compile dead player actions/claims that would be great we can make a mega list, if not I'll do it later.
Add these:

Yoho

[Opportunistic Slash] - Target a player and, if they have not previously targeted you, roleblock them tonight.

Luka

[Branch of Knowledge] - Target a player. If all of their actions tonight are blocked, all of their actions are unblockable next cycle. If all of their actions tonight hit their intended target, roleblock them next cycle.

Targetted no one.

Flower

[La Sangre de Sancho] - Target a player and redirect any actions targeting them tonight to you. If the target is not town, also destroy one of their actions. This action is processed before all others.

Targetted Ratchet Night 1.

Ekko

[Representation Emitter] - Target up to 2 units and learn the results of any investigative actions taken by them tonight.

Targetted Flower and Hime Night 1. And Hayumi and Ratchet N2.

Alexis

[What is Cast] - Target a player and learn whether they share the same alignment as your previous target.

Target me and York.

York

[Snagharpoon] - Target a player. That player's actions are processed last, and learn who they targeted tonight and last cycle.

Luka Night 1

Ekko Night 2

Hayumi night 3.

Hime

[Crow's Eye View] - Target a player and learn a random action of theirs, without flavour.

Targetted no one.
That's a starting point for me to read.
 

Jaguark101

"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"
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Honestly, posts like these don't do you any favors.

First of all; Even if, assuming you're being truthful, you claim your ability and usage, it doesn't neccesarily prove your alignment at all.
Because for one, there's guarantee that you're telling us the whole truth.


And as to not harp on too much on the action and mechanical sides of things, you must realize that there's much more that goes into the game than just claims.
Who you're chosing to interact with, how you interact with them, who you vote for, what you are posting and who you are suspecting - just to name a few things, are all pieces of the puzzle to try and make sense of everything.


And lastly to adress the elephant in the room

First of all, why not?
The mafia team generally wants to avoid throwing each other under the buss if it is avoidable, and in your case you've been largely townread or at the very least not been on most people's radar for a large part of the game.

There's been little reason, nor justifiable times for your hypothetical mates to throw you under the bus. Even last phase there was a very difficult landscape to counter wagon anyone else than Orca.

And that's not even to mention the mindgame aspect of it.
Perhaps it would seem illogical or counter productive to have a "less experienced player" surviving over a more experienced one - but who is to say that isn't by design?

I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the gist of it.

In a nutshell; no one thing proves anything by itself, but by putting one and one thing together it may paint a picture.
Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the insight.
 
Playerlist:
1. @Ratchet
2. @Yoho - Yuri
3. @Hayumi - Refracted Nelly
4. @Alexis2282AE - Rodion
5. @York - Ishmael
6. @Naomi - Janitored
7. @Polar Bear
8. @EkkoLoJinx - Faust
9. @Fujishiro
10. @Michelle
11. @Flower - Don Quixote
12. @KWEH
13. @Yo Tan Wa - Refracted Kurokumo Clan Captain Jun
14. @MangoSenpai
15. @Alwaysmind
16. @The Orca
17. @Jaguark101
18. @DkKoba
19. @hime - Yi Sang
20. @Luka - Sinclair
Also in the to do list is to check the flipped wolves Isos
 
the dark places that confirmation bias take you, take note of the bolded. Mango, I suggest you actually READ what people say before you post absurd theories. You could easily show that michelle/me being scum/scum is the most absurd take of all time by simply looking at michelle's treatment of me since day 1 (i could also provide evidence to the fact that her play around me being like this would be completely inane and that I would have bussed her ages ago if we were both scum)
I'll not really respond to this bit since you already corrected yourself
As for orca, I have been vocal this dayphase about orca being more clear than not for claiming a result - a stupid small thing, but their activity has shown to increase in complexity with regards to how they're interacting with thread, especially in a spot they're allegedly cornered socially and mechanically.
I don't really know why you bring this up here in response to my post, what are you really trying to imply here?

As far as I'm concerned I said that it is not entirely implausible that Orca may just very well be a perfect shitstorm for another scum, giving them a lot more freedom and manouverability.
I fail to see how my speculations in any way challenges or opposes your opinion.
I have a question: What makes Polar Bear town whatsoever here? IIRC you defended them earlier dayphases, I would like you to explain, with quotes, and explanations. I spent a good amount of the last EOD rereading d1 and analyzing the game to see if I can refine my view on the game. Polar Bear I cannot still fathom how anyone is townreading at this point. (I am also similarly embarassed I ever townread jag or hayumi since in retrospect hayumi had clear signs I ignored in lieu of effort)
First you'd have to point me towards where I have ever defended Polar.
If anything I just mere posts earlier to this made this statement;
secondary PoE would be Polar/ Kweh/ DkKoba
Polar hasn't done much of anything to put him either which way - which in itself makes him a person of interest.
Which is also to say that I don't have much in the way of a reason to really pursue him over the likes of Jag/ Michelle.
If you refuse to cut out the illogical aspects of the reads you are making in play that are based on false assumptions/are unsourced entirely, I am forced to presume the more you do so, the likelier this is intentional and not a genuine part of your analysis here.
I can only assume you made this post when you were under the impression I claimed there was a chance you and Michelle were aligned - so I'll leave it at that.
 
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