Role Madness Limbus Company - Masquerade Mafia (Game Thread)
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Probably something like
You, Jag, York
And Luka still but less so. His explanation for voting Kweh was fine but I don’t love that he only came in to defend himself and then dipped again.
I also don’t like how you’re preflipping Yoho either
You, Jag, York
And Luka still but less so. His explanation for voting Kweh was fine but I don’t love that he only came in to defend himself and then dipped again.
I also don’t like how you’re preflipping Yoho either
So I'll have to say first and foremost that I haven't dove too deep into trying to really cement my case here, but there are two main things which made me start to raise my eyebrows about him.
The first being his defense of Hayumi which he has been very confident about for the longest time, only ever starting to voice doubt when York claimed her result.
Then the second thing that pinged me was that Kweh proclaims that AM is the next in line to lynch after Haymi's flip, something which he has been following up on as his vote is currently now at AM.
Now you may ask, why is that a suspicious call to make? And the answer to that lies in Hayumi's claim that same day.
Hayumi prior to having York drop the bomb on him, made a case on AM and promoting a wagon on them.
Could it be an attempt at bussing AM? Well, I obviously can't rule it out 100%, the way it was done makes me really really doubt that it was.
Am was already being sussed by Fuji the day prior and he was already primed as lynch material, which I believe Hayumi took advantage of. But the moment that York dropped the bomb, Hayumi was trying to instead push for Orca.
Now, why would he try to push Orca as his counter wagon instead of AM? Well, it's simply because Orca was a much easier sell to contest Hayumi's wagon than what AM ever was. So it was never about trying to bus, because if it was he would have pushed harder for AM instead of trying for Orca.
And well, I could go even deeper, but also just the interactions between the two has not been that impressive in my opinion.
So yeah, if something was unclear I'll try to elaborate
The first being his defense of Hayumi which he has been very confident about for the longest time, only ever starting to voice doubt when York claimed her result.
Then the second thing that pinged me was that Kweh proclaims that AM is the next in line to lynch after Haymi's flip, something which he has been following up on as his vote is currently now at AM.
Now you may ask, why is that a suspicious call to make? And the answer to that lies in Hayumi's claim that same day.
Hayumi prior to having York drop the bomb on him, made a case on AM and promoting a wagon on them.
Could it be an attempt at bussing AM? Well, I obviously can't rule it out 100%, the way it was done makes me really really doubt that it was.
Am was already being sussed by Fuji the day prior and he was already primed as lynch material, which I believe Hayumi took advantage of. But the moment that York dropped the bomb, Hayumi was trying to instead push for Orca.
Now, why would he try to push Orca as his counter wagon instead of AM? Well, it's simply because Orca was a much easier sell to contest Hayumi's wagon than what AM ever was. So it was never about trying to bus, because if it was he would have pushed harder for AM instead of trying for Orca.
And well, I could go even deeper, but also just the interactions between the two has not been that impressive in my opinion.
So yeah, if something was unclear I'll try to elaborate
Here's another funny part; AM says he effectively blocked Orca, but Hayumi said he destroyed AM's ability.
Now, unless I'm completely mistaken in how I interpret this scenario, it would look like Hayumi effectively blocked AM from blocking Orca.
If this is the case then this really is a whole 'nother can of worms.
Because this would have implications for Orca's position in the PoE also.
I have to do some errands right now, but I need to re-read this part of the game, because I feel like there's a lot of clues to gather from here.
I'll come back to it in a few moments
Now, unless I'm completely mistaken in how I interpret this scenario, it would look like Hayumi effectively blocked AM from blocking Orca.
If this is the case then this really is a whole 'nother can of worms.
Because this would have implications for Orca's position in the PoE also.
I have to do some errands right now, but I need to re-read this part of the game, because I feel like there's a lot of clues to gather from here.
I'll come back to it in a few moments
Okay well, these posts are definitely muddying the waters
So to summarise all the claims we have;
1. AM blocks Orca
2. Hayumi destroys AM ability
3. Koba either blocked or redirected Hayumi to himself or some random.
4. Kweh also says he jailed Orca.
Well, I'd have to say Kweh's claim here does really give me pause. Unless it's by design to throw people off, his input here are more harmful than not for Hayumi's case.
Either it is a genius power move by the scums, a critical error by Kweh or I may entirely be chasing the wrong horse..
So to summarise all the claims we have;
1. AM blocks Orca
2. Hayumi destroys AM ability
3. Koba either blocked or redirected Hayumi to himself or some random.
4. Kweh also says he jailed Orca.
Well, I'd have to say Kweh's claim here does really give me pause. Unless it's by design to throw people off, his input here are more harmful than not for Hayumi's case.
Either it is a genius power move by the scums, a critical error by Kweh or I may entirely be chasing the wrong horse..
Sounds like he was responding o an email at work.
Like this.
“Dear Michelle,
thank you for your response on August 19th. It provided some insight on what the issue was. We have looked at our database and found out what the issue was.
Again thank you for your vigilance and detailed response.
Best wishes,
jagar”
Like this.
“Dear Michelle,
thank you for your response on August 19th. It provided some insight on what the issue was. We have looked at our database and found out what the issue was.
Again thank you for your vigilance and detailed response.
Best wishes,
jagar”
Day 5 VC 1
New
Day 5, VC 1 (until #4008)
Jaguark101: 2
Michelle: 2
Alwaysmind: 1
MangoSenpai: 1
6 votes are required for majority.
Jaguark101: 2
Michelle: 2
Alwaysmind: 1
MangoSenpai: 1
6 votes are required for majority.
KWEH: The Orca -> Alwaysmind
The Orca: Alwaysmind -> None -> Michelle
Alwaysmind: The Orca -> None
Fujishiro: Jaguark101
MangoSenpai: Michelle
Michelle: MangoSenpai
Ratchet: Jaguark101
The Orca: Alwaysmind -> None -> Michelle
Alwaysmind: The Orca -> None
Fujishiro: Jaguark101
MangoSenpai: Michelle
Michelle: MangoSenpai
Ratchet: Jaguark101
1. @Ratchet
2. @Yoho - Yuri
3. @Hayumi - Refracted Nelly
4. @Alexis2282AE - Rodion
5. @York - Ishmael
6. @Naomi - Janitored
7. @Polar Bear
8. @EkkoLoJinx - Faust
9. @Fujishiro
10. @Michelle
11. @Flower - Don Quixote
12. @KWEH
13. @Yo Tan Wa - Refracted Kurokumo Clan Captain Jun
14. @MangoSenpai
15. @Alwaysmind
16. @The Orca
17. @Jaguark101
18. @DkKoba
19. @hime - Yi Sang
20. @Luka - Sinclair
2. @Yoho - Yuri
3. @Hayumi - Refracted Nelly
4. @Alexis2282AE - Rodion
5. @York - Ishmael
6. @Naomi - Janitored
7. @Polar Bear
8. @EkkoLoJinx - Faust
9. @Fujishiro
10. @Michelle
11. @Flower - Don Quixote
12. @KWEH
13. @Yo Tan Wa - Refracted Kurokumo Clan Captain Jun
14. @MangoSenpai
15. @Alwaysmind
16. @The Orca
17. @Jaguark101
18. @DkKoba
19. @hime - Yi Sang
20. @Luka - Sinclair
I've come to the conclusion that Kweh is extremely unlikely to be aligned with Hayumi, the only scenario I can even remotely see him in the same team as Hayumi is also a sceanrio which completely falls apart when considering Kweh claiming before York revealed results.
So, I guess that's one less to think about.
But back to the whole who blocked who fiesta, what we can for certainty say is that Orca was blocked, either by AM or Kweh.
Koba's ability does obscure the full picture of what happened that night...
Are we however to believe Koba's claim is to be true then we know for a fact that by virtue of York's claim his action rolled a dud (actions gets processed last). That is the only explanation why York got the result she got.
So if we assume that Koba's action didn't do anything whatsoever would mean that what effectively happened was;
AM gets blocked by Hayumi and Orca got jailed by Kweh.
In conclusion from this thought experiment, AM is never aligned with Hayumi, and neither is Kweh. Orca was just the convenient counter wagon to Hayumi, they are also not aligned.
Though conjecture, I have doubts a hypotetical SK has a block, so I'm kind off also taking them off the possible suspect list for the SK.
So, I guess that's one less to think about.
But back to the whole who blocked who fiesta, what we can for certainty say is that Orca was blocked, either by AM or Kweh.
Koba's ability does obscure the full picture of what happened that night...
Are we however to believe Koba's claim is to be true then we know for a fact that by virtue of York's claim his action rolled a dud (actions gets processed last). That is the only explanation why York got the result she got.
So if we assume that Koba's action didn't do anything whatsoever would mean that what effectively happened was;
AM gets blocked by Hayumi and Orca got jailed by Kweh.
In conclusion from this thought experiment, AM is never aligned with Hayumi, and neither is Kweh. Orca was just the convenient counter wagon to Hayumi, they are also not aligned.
Though conjecture, I have doubts a hypotetical SK has a block, so I'm kind off also taking them off the possible suspect list for the SK.
You had me going there until the last line. I too came to the conclusion that AM wasnt aligned with Hayumi and could most likely only be SK or town from my POV.
But why cant the SK have a block or some other utility? I posited that the anti claim in this game was likely the fact that there are setup traps afoot. Hence why Im not willing to go into setup spec territory as I dont know the hosting style of SGs. So far he seems to have taken it up a notch with the abundance of roleblock like claims, I think we have like 5 or something.
Whats your POE looking like.
But why cant the SK have a block or some other utility? I posited that the anti claim in this game was likely the fact that there are setup traps afoot. Hence why Im not willing to go into setup spec territory as I dont know the hosting style of SGs. So far he seems to have taken it up a notch with the abundance of roleblock like claims, I think we have like 5 or something.
Whats your POE looking like.
1. Ratchet - Town/ SK
7. Polar Bear - ??
9. Fujishiro - Town
10. Michelle - (I don't trust my instincts anymore)
12. KWEH - Town
14. MangoSenpai -
15. Alwaysmind - Town
16. The Orca - SK/ Town
17. Jaguark101 - Maf/ town
18. DkKoba - Town/ SK
This is currently how I am kind of feeling about the current player list.
I am a little worried that Jag is bait, but at the same time it is getting harder to find who to go for..
For now I've forfeit my read on Michelle because I am worried that I may have been cooking in another plane of existence with that one..
So that really leaves Jag and Polar as tier 1 suspects, Orca at Tier 2 and Koba/ Ratchet as Tier 3 suspects.
I'm not sure I even want humor a SK!Fuji world, so I'm not going to.
7. Polar Bear - ??
9. Fujishiro - Town
10. Michelle - (I don't trust my instincts anymore)
12. KWEH - Town
14. MangoSenpai -
16. The Orca - SK/ Town
17. Jaguark101 - Maf/ town
18. DkKoba - Town/ SK
This is currently how I am kind of feeling about the current player list.
I am a little worried that Jag is bait, but at the same time it is getting harder to find who to go for..
For now I've forfeit my read on Michelle because I am worried that I may have been cooking in another plane of existence with that one..
So that really leaves Jag and Polar as tier 1 suspects, Orca at Tier 2 and Koba/ Ratchet as Tier 3 suspects.
I'm not sure I even want humor a SK!Fuji world, so I'm not going to.
Well, it's not entirely impossible that the SK has some utility to aid their survival.. But, it is a hard sell to me having a SK with block, especially this game. Not only are there an overabundance of blockers or some variety of it being claimed, what good would a block do the SK in a landscape such as this?
Arguably, Jag's ability sounds more like what an SK would be fitted with than a block.
Arguably, Jag's ability sounds more like what an SK would be fitted with than a block.