Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[Dragon777]

Garp is not another Smoker, Smoker is another Garp

If only Oda had followed that route.

 

[Shiroyru]

shiryu> 3 yonko confirmed

Oda had to invent a new title for Garp (“Iron Garp”) just to hype up Shiryu’s sword skill

 

[Blax Blah]

If only Oda had followed that route.

We will see it soon

 

[MonochromeYoru]

shiryu> 3 yonko confirmed

bb is at least> 8 yonko then

 

[ZenZu]

What are Rayleigh and Kizaru

Kizaru literally told Akainu to stfu, Fujitora is beefing Akainu too. Admirals are a different deal entirely, it's a leadership rank. They command damn near the entire navy. Lackey isn't the right term for them, GB literally called King and Queen lackeys.

Rayleigh is just an exception because he's basically old gen Shanks and Luffy's sensei. MC sensei's will always get gassed to death in any shonen.

 

[Boiroy]

bb is at least> 8 yonko then

BB 3 fruits>=Shiryu two fruits>BB 2 fruits>=Shiryu one fruit

 

[L57]

@SDfear whats the name of the attack frud

 

[dirtyLarry]

Why make powerscaling based on the actual manga panels, when you can listen to the Narrator, who LIES ALL THE TIME, and... One Piece Twitter.

The power scaling standards for this series' fanbase are so ass backwards that you can see some people's rectums when they open their mouths.

Chinjao was clearly an elite Pirate in his time, if not Yonkou, High Warlord Tier.

Mihawk is not a Yonkou, and no one wants to fight him (except Shanks and Zoro).

Sai is also lowkey really strong, Lao-G's final form was serious business.

Prime Don Chinjao is still probably stronger than Gear 5 Luffy in an extended 1v1 with no breaks/Kizaruber Eats occurring.

In the end it comes down to this anyway (and now everyone repeat it):

Powerscaling is not some kind of accurate science!

That's especially true when it comes to Oda and One Piece. If he needs a character to be strong or weak for plot purposes, he will write it that way, simple as that. That's why post-skip Crocodile is a completely different animal compared to pre-skip Crocodile for example, despite it not making much sense in terms of logic at all (a 46 year old dude suddenly having the glow-up of his life).

If Oda wants Buggy to miraculously see the light, develop all three colors of haki and be stronger than an admiral EoS he will go for it without giving a single fuck about powerscalers online.

 

[Juanpiz]

In the end it comes down to this anyway (and now everyone repeat it):

Powerscaling is not some kind of accurate science!

That's especially true when it comes to Oda and One Piece. If he needs a character to be strong or weak for plot purposes, he will write it that way, simple as that. That's why post-skip Crocodile is a completely different animal compared to pre-skip Crocodile for example, despite it not making much sense in terms of logic at all (a 46 year old dude suddenly having the glow-up of his life).

If Oda wants Buggy to miraculously see the light, develop all three colors of haki and be stronger than an admiral EoS he will go for it without giving a single fuck about powerscalers online.

Even his Fantasy has limits

 

[Boiroy]

 

[ZenZu]

@SDfear whats the name of the attack frud

Divine Arrival, I already revealed it

 

[Dragon777]

We will see it soon

I think Koby has completly "stolen" that.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If only Oda had followed that route.

He will. Why do you think Luffy is the White Warrior and Smoker is the White Chaser.

 

[Welkin]

If Sommers and Killingham end up being serious matchups for Zoro and Sanji then I guess that would show the SH's still have a long way to go

An old Gaban could swift diff a Holy Knight. WB and Rayleigh each oneshot one

What kind of powerups will Oda have to give the SH's to make them a true PK crew

And that's without mentioning that the post powerup SH's will still struggle with scrubs like BB's Titanic Commanders

:risicheck:

 

[The Legend]

In terms of raw punching power, Garp = Kuzan (which is why their fists made the same sound). Now in a pure fist fight, prime Garp would still win due to superior Haki + better skill (named techniques like Galaxy Punch); Garp as a dfless and weaponless guy maximized his hand to hand combat.

That being said, as someone with one of the most powerful logias, most likely awakened, in his pocket, having Garp's raw punching strength (along with formal Marine training) is good enough and way more than people expected from a supposed DF merchant.

So someone with the raw punching power of prime Garp couldn't knock out the weakened and badly injured old man Garp?
He even amped his raw punching power of prime Garp with his Devil Fruit.

:risitavirus:

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If Sommers and Killingham end up being serious matchups for Zoro and Sanji then I guess that would show the SH's still have a long way to go

An old Gaban could swift diff a Holy Knight. WB and Rayleigh each oneshot one

What kind of powerups will Oda have to give the SH's to make them a true PK crew

And that's without mentioning that the post powerup SH's will still struggle with scrubs like BB's Titanic Commanders

:risicheck:

Tbh there’s no chance that Killingham and Sommers are fighting Zoro and Sanji.

 

[Boiroy]

If Sommers and Killingham end up being serious matchups for Zoro and Sanji then I guess that would show the SH's still have a long way to go

An old Gaban could swift diff a Holy Knight. WB and Rayleigh each oneshot one

What kind of powerups will Oda have to give the SH's to make them a true PK crew

And that's without mentioning that the post powerup SH's will still struggle with scrubs like BB's Titanic Commanders

:risicheck:

old gaban couldn't defeat a hk
he just paralyzed him for few minutes

 

[Ven437]

So lemme get this straight WB BM Kaido all fighting the scum pirates who betray Rocks and terrorize innocent god valley citizens while washing up holy knights

Garp comes in and wants to fight these 3 thereby defending the honor of celestial dragons and their spinoff hunger games event

Truly those Slavery D. Enforcer allegations are as real as the one piece existing

 

[Dragon777]

He will. Why do you think Luffy is the White Warrior and Smoker is the White Chaser.

You have far more faith then I do.

I think Koby now stole everything. And I have been always very invested in Koby, literally since the pre TS, but I wanted Smoker to be at least the Sengoku of this era.

Now he got sidelined by Koby and Fujitora both.

 

[Redgohan]

Kizaru literally told Akainu to stfu, Fujitora is beefing Akainu too. Admirals are a different deal entirely, it's a leadership rank. They command damn near the entire navy. Lackey isn't the right term for them, GB literally called King and Queen lackeys.

Rayleigh is just an exception because he's basically old gen Shanks and Luffy's sensei. MC sensei's will always get gassed to death in any shonen.

Rayleigh was modeled off Zoro's template, dude, not Shanks. lmao

Rayleigh's whole hype is is basically a mirror of Zoro's.