Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

Who has the greatest cutting skills ?


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I'm still waiting for the possible Big Mom and Saturn clash, I want to see if she will fight him and how she will do during that clash, or if she run away from him like she did with Garp.
 
That's still not the intended purpose then lmfao
Because then any type of training that increases your strength would inadvertently increase your Haki
The point remains that it was still made specifically to help increase striking strength though. It wasn't made to help with your Haki.
It wasn't a training to increase strength.. The hard part is to not use Haki while giving it your all.. Since Haki is directly willpower, punching with all your might without adding Haki is an extremely arduous task.. When your CoA is awakened, the two go hand in hand and separating them is the goal..
 

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What we know
- Rocks, Whitebeard, Kaido, Linlin are all heading for the center of GV
- Garp is looking for the big shots(near the center of GV) and especially Roger
- Roger went to fight Whitebeard but after Rayleigh saved Shakky, he aimed at taking the treasures(most likely dfs) and leaving
- Rocks is looking to save his wife and son, but his wife will likely die

So they are all nearby, but the treasures Roger is aiming at taking are guarded by the CDs, who are also attempting to kill Rocks wife and son, which would lead to Rocks and Roger crossing paths with each other with this scene



Most likely when his wife will be killed by the CDs, it'd enrage Rocks who will then start/aim at killing CDs with then Garp forced to have to protect them(Sengoku's words saying Garp was forced to protect the CDs)

And thus leading to the decisive battle between Rocks, Garp and Roger. Although, Roger doesn't really have a strong reason to fight Rocks here, he is aiming at the treasures and leaving, so unless he did it to help Garp(suggesting he was in a difficult spot), his reason is still unclear.

Character-wise, they still look like piece of shit though since CDs are doing a human hunt here, yet Garp will try protecting them despite saying he doesn't want to work for CDs? Truly hypocritical
 
really trying to argue that not training Haki is the best way to train Haki :kobeha:
Is there any way to train Haki though besides the basic stuff?

Rayleigh only taught Luffy beginner stuff like CoO, CoA, Hardening, and basic CoC

He never taught him the top tier stuff like AdvCoC or Future Sight

Was it because there was not enough time? or because you only unlock that stuff in real battle and not by training? (as chapter 886 says):

 
That physical strength is indeed a key factor in these.
How?
Shouldn't Kuzan and Garp be blowing ships away with their punches if they can destroy mountains with just physical strength? Meanwhile they are only denting them
King Elizabello could do that despite seemingly having mediocre Haki. There's a reason for that
and Koby also has mediocre haki, he's still nowhere close to Kuzan/Garp who dented battleship bags. He's still making like day 1 Kuzan sounds.
 
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