Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion

Is Garling done this war ?


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starting to wonder why the rat intercepted kaido to have wb killed in MF
Because the Marines would have lost. Kaido wanted Ace for himself, the missing card in his crew, and if Kaido and Newgate joined forces, with King, the Marines aren't winning, especially when Teach shows up.

Characters like Shanks and Sengoku do things for the sake of preserving world balance. When Newgate starts talking about how the Final War is inevitable, is one of the only times we really see Senkgoku crash out. Off the top of my head, it's pretty much this, and when he hears Magellan wants to kill himself:



The difference is this:

Sengoku and the Marines want to PREVENT this war.

Shanks/Kaido view it as inevitable, but, Shanks wants to wait for the right person/time (Luffy and the Dawn), while Kaido just wanted to throw the world into war.

King of the Pirates is a title held by Joy Boy in the past; the King of the Pirates IS the Joy Boy of the era. This is why Kaido was depressed: since he found out he wasn't Joy Boy, Kaido realized he couldn't become the King, and so, Kaido didn't really try to, despite being so close to Lodestar. I believe Kaido visited Shyarly when he picked up Scien.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/World_Timeline

Shyarly predicted Shirahoshi's birth 26 years ago, at the age of 3.

Scien/Queen joined Kaido 26 years ago. Cutty Flam/Franky was abandoned by Scien on Water 7 during this time (Franky didn't realize Queen was his father in Wano, because Queen used to be much thinner and sexier).

Water 7 is near Fish-Man Island; I think Kaido heard about Shyarly's prophecies, and wanted to ask her about Joy Boy. Jack is a Fish-Man, and would have been 2 here, since he's 28. I'd imagine Kaido found Jack fighting as a 2-year-old, was impressed, and, since Jack had no family, Kaido adopted him.

Kaido is the Barny the Dinosaur of One Piece

I love you, you love me, we're a big Beast family
With a great big Mom, and a kiss from me to you



Won't you say you love Kaido, too?

Shylarly told Kaido a few things:
-Kaido wasn't Joy Boy
-Joy Boy would defeat Kaido in Wano

This explains Kaido's behavior ever since; he wanted to save Ace, who he believed was Joy Boy. Shanks knew the Marines losing in Marineford would cause a swell in evil pirates, and global instability, so he stopped Kaido from helping Whitebeard win. After, Kaido's been depressed as shit, because he thinks he failed again, and that Joy Boy died.

BUT, Shanks told Kaido something when they fought: "The man who will become Joy Boy... the King of the Pirates... is Monkey D. Luffy."

After Kaido thinks Luffy is dead the first time, he is DESPAIRING.

"You couldn't be Joy Boy EITHER, it seems."


King served Kaido at first, because he believed he was Joy Boy, but his loyalty kept him on board, even when it was clear Kaido wasn't. Even Kaido laughed at the idea, while drinking.


But, when King met Kaido, Kaido 1000% had the D Smile going, he wanted to be Joy Boy/King of the Pirates


Kaido gave up on being Joy Boy, and, instead, did the things that would CREATE Joy Boy. Kaido put all his efforts into war, so Joy Boy in the future could defeat the WG with the army Kaido built.

"Apparently, Oden's desire to open the country, is meant to welcome Joy Boy. If he's the same as the man you're waiting for, then I think I know who Joy Boy is"



Why does Kaido know Joy Boy will beat him? Because he asked Shyarly, the prophet, who Joy Boy was, and her answer was:


The man who defeats Kaido.

This is huge for Luffy and Yamato, because it means that Kaido was trying to save Ace, and Shanks stopped him.

Shanks chose the Dawn/Luffy's new era, over his Captain's only son, Portgas D. Ace.

This will be a giant conflict for Yamato and Luffy, and is one of the reasons Oda is pushing Luffy being such a Shanks' stan, and Zoro criticizing it:

Shanks is far from perfect, and his actions directly led to Ace's death.

Newgate was dying in Marineford either way, and, if Kaido and King show up, the Marines lose: they'd still exist, but, the New World and Paradise would be taken over by Pirates, especially Big Mom and Kaido.

Shanks traded Ace's life for global stability, and I have no idea how Luffy will react to that.
 
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Next chapter will reveal why angering Kaido terrifies Saturn and the other Gorosei
Yes, the government was afraid of attacking Kaidou, of invading Wano while Kaidou was there. It was kind of like—Kaidou was so respected that even the CP-0 agent ordered by the Gorosei to interrupt Kaidou’s fight was desperate and questioning if that was even possible. The government respected Kaidou enough not to invade Wano as long as he was still standing.
 
Additional spoilers for One Piece chapter 1162:

- When Whitebeard saw Imu, he asked: "What in hell's name are we facing?!"

- Rocks D. Xebec says: " It's the world itself! " (and he was excited as he said it 🔥🔥)


The greatest trio vs the world 😱😱😱
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Gassed out after throwing 1 attack vs sommers:shocked:
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Don't bully that little mental kid L69
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Bro can never betray his own 😭😭
 
starting to wonder why the rat intercepted kaido to have wb killed in MF
Kaido probably got paid by WG to kill Whitebeard
He was trading with them at the time and selling them equipment
In fact, Shanks helped Whitebeard otherwise he would have no reason to come to Marineford and save Whitebeard's crew
 
There are still a missing piece in Kaido's character. And I still think its related to Yamato. He did mention he didn't even want Yamato to get the fruit.

He changed somewhere between GV and the Oden fight where he only wanted to die. and I also think it's related to Zoro. Shimotsuki is just a red herring and Zoro is related to Kaido bu was taken away from him wich made Kaido flip. He probably wanted a son instead of Yamato because he thought Joy boy must be a man. Wich connect to Zoro story with Kuina being a similar case to Yamato. This is how Oda did with Sanji story, he came back to the original flashback and fleshed it out. I am dying on the hill that this is the true twist when Kaido comes back
 
The Old Hag one was even worst.

-> Brings Kaido to Wano and helps him establish a base
-> Provides reasonings for Oden to not fight Kaido for 5 years
-> Helps Kaido in taking out Oden

This idiot then cheapshots Oden by his own choice instead of waiting for him to turn around, but proceeds to blame it on the old hag... and kills her.

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Crydo is just hypocritical like that

his fans think its "deep character writing" though so let them have it

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