Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

The more extraordinary claims require the more extraordinary evidence, but burden of proof generally applies if you make a claim buddy

Yeah. Which I granted then I provided sources, which were ignored.. as always, I'm the only one here willing to adapt.

Really baffling that he is so pretentious and arrogant despite the sheer ignorance

Less high schooler dogmas and more research based rethoric before you call other ignorant mate

well to be fair he admitted it's due to his mental condition

More like an automatism to protect myself here. I'm much more calm in other circounstance, but this place requires that I attack to stay heard and present. I'm willing to be gentle and explain complex stuff simply, but the audience here is not really welcoming if you know what I mean. I would have a lot more success trying to make cats jump in fire hoops.

 

[AL sama]

More like an automatism to protect myself here. I'm much more calm in other circounstance, but this place requires that I attack to stay heard and present. I'm willing to be gentle and explain complex stuff simply, but the audience here is not really welcoming if you know what I mean. I would have a lot more success trying to make cats jump in fire hoops.

just to be clear you've no control over how you act sometimes right??

 

[Zenos7]

No but someone has to speak out against this guy's manipulative and dishonest way of debating.
He seems like a guy who, once he found his political 'tribe', clings to them like they are his family and he has to obsessively defend everything they say and do, completely throwing critical thinking out of the window.
He obviously does NOT stand for equal rights for ALL humans, as shown in his reactions to me trying to bring other ongoing genocides to his attention.
He copies his opinions stright from his twitter friends' accounts that are undoubtedly mainstream leftists. He doesn't know how to source information without bias, doesn't know how to read an article without immediately filtering its content through his partisan tinted glasses.
Logiko is the very definition of intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Logiko]

just to be clear you've no control over how you act sometimes right??

I have control, I use conflictuality with intent as a protection against this forum and especially people here who do not understand how harmfull they are. My words are always carefully weighted. I reflect what I see. When I sense attack, I attack back, when I sense a much gentler attitude, I become sweet. I never attack first unless it's One Piece as I consider the global attitude here as an attack in itself.

 

[Zenos7]

Our standards for video games/comics compared to religious cults is so gross.

this is very true, and there is no good reason why these should be protected as they are just because criticizing them hurts the cult members feelings.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

if the first thing that comes to you when you see Palestinian punishing their oppressors is how barbaric it is

Quote me where I used the word barbaric

The only time I see you have a bit of decency about other groups of people outside your soon to become fascist country

Is this somehow supposed to be a diss? Want me to respond with generic France surrender memes or..??😂
You immediately attack the person once you feel mildly attacked and backed into a corner.

You are the one doing it, not me pal. The day you will understand that resistance is not always pure and rainbowy, you might start to learn that sometimes, bad shit happens, yet, those things need to happen to prevent even worse things to continue.

You are right, me highlighting the existence of different factions within Palestine is seeing them as a monolith and you universally framing them all as respectable freedom fighters is absolutely not a monolithic view.

Dude don't even try. I was already trying to raise the attention on Native south american or explain the situation in Darfour that you were still bitching about covid vaxxine being a hoax. Do not even try to gaslight the shit out of this thread.

Wow those are complete lies.
In your world view, it probably makes sense to label anyone who doesn't share your views an anti vaxxer. Like I said, you're an ultra tribalist.

I was already trying to raise the attention on Native south

Weeks After I shared links btw

 

[Zenos7]

We need real religious freedom so desperately. I'm sure plenty of these freaks WANTED to be good growing up, and whenever they tried to stand up against the system and their racist parents, the cults were ready to beat them back into place.

real religious freedom includes the freedom to practice a religion though, just as it includes the freedom from being coerced to practice one.

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You are the one doing it, not me pal. The day you will understand that resistance is not always pure and rainbowy, you might start to learn that sometimes, bad shit happens, yet, those things need to happen to prevent even worse things to continue.

Spoiler

or what @Bisoromi Bear said about intellectual dishonesty lul

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

just to be clear you've no control over how you act sometimes right??

People can and must be confronted with their statements and their behaviors may be criticized, regardless of mental illnesses present or not. Mental health is not a free pass to act like a dick.

 

[Zenos7]

Ethics and materialism means looking at things in a contextual manner. Sorry if you are not educated enough to understand that two different types of violences in two different context do not have the same value. Like I said, you confused reactionnary liberal ragebaiter are really tiring. Learn some fucking something. I'm willing to explain, but you are not helping me.

so a hamas member killing children is less violent than an idf soldier killing children.

gotcha

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

so a hamas member killing children is less violent than an idf soldier killing children.

gotcha

Every enemy child grows up to become an enemy soldier.

 

[Zenos7]

Yeah. Which I granted then I provided sources, which were ignored.. as always, I'm the only one here willing to adapt.

but you still fucking tried to wiggle yourself out of it, so that point still stands.

good for you on following up with evidence.

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Less high schooler dogmas and more research based rethoric before you call other ignorant mate

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I would have a lot more success trying to make cats jump in fire hoops.

go do it

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Quote me where I used the word barbaric

Is this somehow supposed to be a diss? Want me to respond with generic France surrender memes or..??😂
You immediately attack the person once you feel mildly attacked and backed into a corner.

You are right, me highlighting the existence of different factions within Palestine is seeing them as a monolith and you universally framing them all as respectable freedom fighters is absolutely not a monolithic view.

Wow those are complete lies.
In your world view, it probably makes sense to label anyone who doesn't share your views an anti vaxxer. Like I said, you're an ultra tribalist.

Weeks After I shared links btw

damn someone is on fire

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Every enemy child grows up to become an enemy soldier.

 

[AL sama]

I have control, I use conflictuality with intent as a protection against this forum and especially people here who do not understand how harmfull they are. My words are always carefully weighted. I reflect what I see. When I sense attack, I attack back, when I sense a much gentler attitude, I become sweet. I never attack first unless it's One Piece as I consider the global attitude here as an attack in itself.

uh...........

 

[Logiko]

Quote me where I used the word barbaric

Never said you did.

Is this somehow supposed to be a diss? Want me to respond with generic France surrender memes or..??😂
You immediately attack the person once you feel mildly attacked and backed into a corner.

No. I attack a little bit more when you question my basic empathy as I consider this as a much bigger irrespect than insult, especially in front of your complete lack of care for those subject and the tons of tries to raise awareness on my side. And yeah, France surrendered. The resistance was just a few %

You are right, me highlighting the existence of different factions within Palestine is seeing them as a monolith and you universally framing them all as respectable freedom fighters is absolutely not a monolithic view.

No, the problem comes when, after a genocide, your point of view is directed first at the resistance instead of the genocider that are still killing. A pov sadly directed by the systemic dehumanization of Palestinians that can't be allow to be legitimated in their anger or actions of resistance, good or bad.

Wow those are complete lies.
In your world view, it probably makes sense to label anyone who doesn't share your views an anti vaxxer. Like I said, you're an ultra tribalist.

Dude, I literally had multiple argument with you while you were denying the importance of Vaxxine during the COVID period and spreading conspiracy theories about doctors, and scientific.

Weeks After I shared links btw

sure

uh...........

I keep telling you that this forum is highly systematically toxic.. I wouldn't need to attack in a more positive environment. My attacks (still respectful enough btw compared to everything I or the story receive) are simply a reflection of what this forum allows. Talk to me with respect and openness and I will have a normal conversation, but spread ignorance while denying my legitimacy and I will bite.

Sigh

Mental health is not a free pass to act like a dick.

Indeed, ignorance too.

so a hamas member killing children is less violent than an idf soldier killing children.

gotcha

but you still fucking tried to wiggle yourself out of it, so that point still stands.

good for you on following up with evidence.

Out of what ? You don't understand here that I'm not the one with a problem. You guyz are directing your anger toward the resistance instead of the IDF that is STILL killing Palestinian. In just a few pages, you spoke more about how horrible the resistance is for killing collaborators than two years of thread activity while the IDF was commiting a genocide. Soo.. Where is the problem here mate ?

Yeah.. Deflect.

go do it

Sorry, I don't want to hurt cats.

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[Logiko]

This thread was sleeping the last two days. It needed a little bit of a push.

 

[AL sama]

I keep telling you that this forum is highly systematically toxic.. I wouldn't need to attack in a more positive environment. My attacks (still respectful enough btw compared to everything I receive) are simply a reflection of what this forum allows. Talk to me with respect and openness and I will have a normal conversation, but spread ignorance while denying my legitimacy and I will bite.

my reaction was for something else but sure lol

 

[Logiko]

my reaction was for something else but sure lol

Something I said ?

 

[Zenos7]

only this time its literally what you are doing lul

 

[AL sama]

Something I said ?

ignorance is a bliss sometimes so never mind

 

[Zenos7]

Sorry, I don't want to hurt cats.

you dont need to hurt them to do that. modern animal training only uses positive reinforcement.

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This thread was sleeping the last two days. It needed a little bit of a push.

mask off much

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denying my legitimacy and I will bite.

its not your legitimacy, its the legitimacy of your claims and statements that is the issue.