Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

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Shiki was close in strength to Roger as per the manga.

“The battle was declared a draw”

Big Mom and Kaido don’t have a single feat on this level.
Openly fought Shiki with the largest fleet around yet ducked fighting BM on her turf in land. This is supposed to be impressive? BM weather abilities would neg Shiki and his fleet on the spot. Dodger and his wings weren’t tough shit to fight a pregnant lady in her prime and made like rats
 
The cope to defend these simps Shiki and Rayleigh from fraud allegations is so delicious :ihaha:

For months mfers gassed these two up to pull up and show some hard feats that put em on the lvl of top Rocks subordinates. Cats were telling me he was gonna fight that other bum Garling to win shakky over and glazed by Oda like no other

Imagine these bums running away from the island while the big boys and girls play with the strongest entity of the verse :Kek_Ki:

Truly Lhiki and pissleigh alright
 
The cope to defend these simps Shiki and Rayleigh from fraud allegations is so delicious :ihaha:

For months mfers gassed these two up to pull up and show some hard feats that put em on the lvl of top Rocks subordinates. Cats were telling me he was gonna fight that other bum Garling to win shakky over and glazed by Oda like no other

Imagine these bums running away from the island while the big boys and girls play with the strongest entity of the verse :Kek_Ki:

Truly Lhiki and pissleigh alright
True!
And in contrast, Big Mom's feats and portrayal on God Valley have been:
 
BB is the main antagonist and the battle on Raftel, because IMU can't leave Marijoise. Imu is the Final Villain of the series
Sounds like dogshit. Planning all this time, only for him to not get his getback on Imu. The only way Oda saves this series is if Imu wins in the end, which is something more unexpected.

Then again, Oda is known to change his mind randomly, like how he wanted Kaido's defeat to not end in a strong punch, only to end it in that way. He'd probably make Luffy immune to the Reversi cuz of the dog fruit Nika
 
If they want to push this false agenda, yes.

Prime Moriah and Hanafunda were stronger than Rayleigh and Gaban. I mean, look how the man who was going toe-to-toe in his old age against Prime Kizaru was completely wounded against the fodder of God Valley.


And this is the version said by the same person who would be capable of doing more than just facing Kizaru in his youth.
@Elder Lee Hung

Kizaru suffered an insane power creep
Too bad sea stone cuffs doesn't work on Ray
 
Killer is strong but he simply doesn't move like Sanji im sorry, making Kaido feel pain in a 5 vs 2 wasn't a big deal for most above Scabbard level characters bare minimum. He should have done more than just beating Hawkins if we wanted to believe that he had a chance against Sanji even pre exo. Black Maria spanked Sanji freely and he kept fighting like nothing happened, that is big
How can you even compare a free beating from Black Maria with a fight against Kaido & Linlin...
 
He is not only a certain fandom overhype him some of you act like he is Roger or WB
These n1ggas really trynna gaslight me into thinking this awkward beta Pissleigh who struggled getting thru Captain John is stronger than the man who lifts islands passively and gauntlets his way thru commanders while getting stronger

Pissleigh fans really do be crying after Oda reminded them his side quest was only a front for the REAL battle of the era (Imu)
 
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