Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

[Mathias]

Roger was 39 at GV anyone thinking he was not in his prime should seek professional help.

Prime isn't age related in One Piece. Brook and Jinbei and Robin prove you different.

 

[ZippySpace]

Xebec is going to do a final atonement while in Majin Domi Reversi

 

[ZenZu]

God valley 30-yo BM:

-weaker physical stats
-better physical speed
-decent mastery over DF
-weaker overall haki
-more frequent ACoC coating

Wano 67-yo BM:

-greater physical stats
-less speed (doesnt matter since homies)
-complete mastery over DF
-stronger overall haki
-very little to no ACoC coating

The ACoC coating is smth we know declines with age. WB didnt use it at all and Garp didnt use much of it @Jokerr @Philosoraptor

Prime BM will only be shown in our dreams at this rate @kekaro @Owl Ki

 

[Sentinel]

Ive said it before.

There is no need to compare Kaido & Linlin any further than their final techniques... Dragon Torch & Misery.

Yeah, Blazing Bagua is so far above Misery, it's hilarious.

Oda really fumbled Big Mom so hard when Shanksu's 0.5 shot guy was basically the tank in her 2v1 fight. Let that sink in.

But nobody is being hated as much as Kidd by Oda. What happened to the previous magnetism user is fucking wild! At least Oda could have retconned Kidd's DF ability into electromagnetism to make him compete with Law's fruit but this guy is a complete bum. I can't believe I used to cheer on Kidd's feats before the rooftop started.
I'd understand if Kidd was a Haki monster but even that isn't the case. Katakuri arguably has a better DF than Midd AND better Haki, let that sink in as well.

 

[Ven437]

Big Job is so far beneath him that he doesn't even acknowledge her existence lmao, even when she sneak attacks him, he just casually dodges it without taking his eyes off Imu

This is the biggest stupid cope ive heard from u and Ive heard some things that would make my niece think somebody dropped u as a baby

 

[Lor D. Coast]

The fandom thought the answer to Oda asking "How does Shanks actually fight?" in an SBS, was something else, when what he intended was "Shanks fights like Roger".

Pandemonium (Xebec)
Kamusari (Roger/Shanks)
Togen Totsuka (Oden)
Higanbana (Rayleigh)

Signature attacks of 4 Top Tier swordsmen with advCoC, that the Greatest Swordsman is guaranteed to surpass with his own Signature.

Where's dragon damnation?

 

[Sentinel]

Prime BM will only be shown in our dreams at this rate @kekaro @Owl Ki

There is only one hope left for Big Mom fans if she reappears in Elbaf with awakening, otherwise it's not looking that good for her tbh.

 

[ZenZu]

Where's dragon damnation?

Lucci stopped it with his fingernails offpanel.

 

[Blackbeard]

Rock pirate rankings in god valley

1. Xebec
2. Primebeard
3. Big Mum
4. Kaido (Fruit)
5. Ganzui
6. Captain John
7. Wang Zhi
8. Shiki
9. Streusen
10. Silver Axe

Demi-God Tier:

• Rocks D. Xebec

Mid Top Tier:

• Edward Newgate
• Charlotte Linlin
• Golden Lion Shiki

Inbetweener Tier:

• Silver Axe
• Wang Zhi
• Kaido (post-DF)

YC1 Tier

• Kaido (pre-DF)
• Ganzui
• Captain John

YC2/3 Tier:

• Don Marlon
• Barbel
• Streusen
• Gill Bastar
• Gloriosa

Mid tier:

• Buckingham Stussy

 

[SkySanji]

Prime Big Mom is just the version of Big Mom that has no feats and never appears in the manga, that way guys like Ven can make up whatever they want about her and dissociate her endless clown feats from this fanfic "prime" version.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Katakuri arguably has a better DF than Midd AND better Haki, let that sink in as well.

Youre forgetting someone...

 

[OPKnK]

Theres no downplay, js twist of facts for agenda piece. In this ch Kaido ran away from BM lol

Agenda piece is fine but if facts get twist to much then got say something back .
Like i sad fucking momo dodge kaido attack so Kaido look like even bigger joke that than BM if we dodge scaling lmao .

 

[BestGen]

It doesn't really matter when anyone hit their prime.

Bumger and WB died without being stronger than Xebec at any point of their lives.

Roger def did

Just noticed more latrine downscale
Xebec that couldn't sky split still strong enough to kill an admiral

 

[ZenZu]

Prime Big Mom is just the version of Big Mom that has no feats and never appears in the manga, that way guys like Ven can make up whatever they want about her and dissociate her endless clown feats from this fanfic "prime" version.

That's literally what it is, that's why I say "Prime Big Mom" is like Big Mom fans admitting how disappointing she was and continues to be. I've never seen self snitching quite like it.

 

[Sentinel]

Youre forgetting someone...

True, I can't believe Doflamingo ended up as one of the most complete high tiers after the Yonko Saga ended. His CoC bursts weren't weak as well.

 

[Philosoraptor]

Ive said it before.

There is no need to compare Kaido & Linlin any further than their final techniques... Dragon Torch & Misery.

That wouldn't be a good comparison because the claim assumes that this attack was used at its maximum potential. We even have WCI's feat out scaled her final technique

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Lucci stopped it with his fingernails offpanel.

Kaku upscale.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Where's dragon damnation?

Idk but its obviously inferior to Mihawk.

The more top tier swordsmen we see fight before Mihawk does, the better Mihawk will eventually look though.

 

[Vergil]

Idk but its obviously inferior to Mihawk.

The more top tier swordsmen we see fight before Mihawk does, the better Mihawk will eventually look though.

How when he won't fight anyone except Zoro?

Post automatically merged: Oct 22, 2025

Prime Big Mom is just the version of Big Mom that has no feats and never appears in the manga, that way guys like Ven can make up whatever they want about her and dissociate her endless clown feats from this fanfic "prime" version.

Compare 68 year old Big Mom to 48 year old Big Mom

 

[Sentinel]

I forgot something... Prime Garp used Galaxy Impact on Imu, right? Let's see how it looks like, so we can compare it to Old Garp's Galaxy Impact.